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These 2 brothers shot a kid,,, then that kid's family & neighbours caught these 2 & beat them to death,,,

Media on the contrary portrayed these 2 as innocent,,, they were NOT...


One can argue whether the way they were killed was justified or not,,, but don't forget those whos son was shot were mad as hell...


Now this Rangers incident also is justice at door steps...
If that so-called innocent would have killed a lady while robbing her, media won't give news on that more than a ticker... & when the robber is killed media is going overboard...

When u know that justice system is NOT honest & that criminals get evicted if taken to court then it's best to punish the culprits on-spot...


we can see the gun shatched from the alleged-robber in hands of guy in shalwar-qameez...


Accha, these 2 brothers' face seem cute and look angels innocent in photo, how clever.
 

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That is the crux of the whole problem man, we accepting that some foreigner messiah will come and rescue us. Why can't we ourselves salvage us from our mess eh? Why do you want the whole world to poke their nose in Pakistan, which hasn't really helped in the past. Have faith in yourself and your abilities, and try to turn things around yourself.

With faith, discipline and selfless devotion to duty, there is nothing worthwhile that you cannot achieve. Muhammad Ali Jinnah

This is the only way now. Our people are good as useless now. Some people or should I say most people still don't realize that Pakistan's lifeline is coming to an end. People are still supporting these kinds of killings and supporting government agencies blindly.

And please don't quote Quaid e Azam. His vision of Pakistan was broken after the 1960s. Now he's only good for pictures in government offices where corruption is happening right there. Soon his pictures will be replaced by Mottarma Shaheed Benazir Bhutto.
 

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Excuse my lack of apprehension here, but does a retired general holds the reigns of Karachi Rangers as well? No na, then your analogy here is as trifling as the rest of your post. If Kiyani represents the Military, then DG rangers Karachi is responsible for the actions of the miscreants under his command. And lastly why the inquiry committee only comprises of Army officer's especially when they have nothing to do with this incident?(if we go by your theory). Whether they work for UNO, ANF & Rangers they still are army officers, you may be able to fool some of the people but not me.

Oh yes genius, next time, when some PAF Base is attacked (God forbidden), blame the Army one more time.

i know that now you are just over loading your common sense as you cant get across that point that whether the CAFs are managed by Army Officers or whether it is the army Officers who hold inquiries (as should normally happen as they are the one responsible), they DO NOT report to the COAS, ARE NOT answerable to MoD, DOES NOT fall within the domain/sphere of the military law and DO NOT run.manage the organization by the laws, regulations and instructions the Army is bounded by, BUT they are answerable to the MoI (including the DG), they are governed by the CIVILIAN LAWS (i know you dont know a shyt about the difference between a Military Law and a Civilian one) and that they are paid by the respective Provinces, they perks for example like the batman are withdrawn from them as they no more form part of the MILITARY. The KPK has FC KPK, Balochistan has it's FC Balochistan, Punjab has Punjab Rangers and Sindh has Sindh Rangers, they all come under the MoI and just because they are run by Army Officer DOES NOT mean that the COAS can exercise his powers on them, you @#$!

The MoD or the COAS has NO say whatsoever when it comes to their employment, discipline, ACRs and punishments. Tomorrow when someone from the Coast Guards fcuks up, blame the Army again, as they too are commanded by Army/Navy Officers! The maximum that can be done is that if an officer is proved guility, he would be dealt with by the Civilian Laws and the Laws of the organization (FC, Rangers etc) and then he would be RTUed (returned to unit i.e. back to the army), but before he does that, he would have to undergo the punishment so awarded by the civilian law, and the Army or military would have no concern or say over the fringing decision thus made by the organization (Rangers etc). In very short, the military (including the Army, Navy and PAF) doesnt not exercise any control at any level over an officer (including the DGs) when deputed to these organizations, the MoI and the respective Chief Secretaries (of Provinces) are the bosses instead. And it doesnt take ounces of common sense to understand that when the COAS/Army/military does not exercise any right over such officers or over the actions/mistakes committed by (Ranger) personnel that it's mere idiotic to blame/accuse the Army for their misdeeds!! Go, squeeze R. Malik's balls instead! This may cause them to milk!!
 

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These 2 brothers shot a kid,,, then that kid's family & neighbours caught these 2 & beat them to death,,,

So these two pressed the trigger together? Doesn't make sense at all, only one of them would have fired but why was the other brother brutally killed as well?
 

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This is the only way now. Our people are good as useless now. Some people or should I say most people still don't realize that Pakistan's lifeline is coming to an end. People are still supporting these kinds of killings and supporting government agencies blindly.

And please don't quote Quaid e Azam. His vision of Pakistan was broken after the 1960s. Now he's only good for pictures in government offices where corruption is happening right there. Soon his pictures will be replaced by Mottarma Shaheed Benazir Bhutto.

Brother that is defeatist talk, and that is Kufr, every Pakistani who loves his country must fight to make it, the best country it can be. Regarding the Rangers and Police we should not use individual incidents to condemn the thousands of young men and women who do their job honorably.
 

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These 2 brothers shot a kid,,, then that kid's family & neighbours caught these 2 & beat them to death,,,

Media on the contrary portrayed these 2 as innocent,,, they were NOT...


One can argue whether the way they were killed was justified or not,,, but don't forget those whos son was shot were mad as hell...


Now this Rangers incident also is justice at door steps...
If that so-called innocent would have killed a lady while robbing her, media won't give news on that more than a ticker... & when the robber is killed media is going overboard...

When u know that justice system is NOT honest & that criminals get evicted if taken to court then it's best to punish the culprits on-spot...


we can see the gun shatched from the alleged-robber in hands of guy in shalwar-qameez...

media is using the video tape to create sensational journalism
 

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Oh yes genius, next time, when some PAF Base is attacked (God forbidden), blame the Army one more time.

i know that now you are just over loading your common sense as you cant get across that point that whether the CAFs are managed by Army Officers or whether it is the army Officers who hold inquiries (as should normally happen as they are the one responsible), they DO NOT report to the COAS, ARE NOT answerable to MoD, DOES NOT fall within the domain/sphere of the military law and DO NOT run.manage the organization by the laws, regulations and instructions the Army is bounded by, BUT they are answerable to the MoI (including the DG), they are governed by the CIVILIAN LAWS (i know you dont know a shyt about the difference between a Military Law and a Civilian one) and that they are paid by the respective Provinces, they perks for example like the batman are withdrawn from them as they no more form part of the MILITARY. The KPK has FC KPK, Balochistan has it's FC Balochistan, Punjab has Punjab Rangers and Sindh has Sindh Rangers, they all come under the MoI and just because they are run by Army Officer DOES NOT mean that the COAS can exercise his powers on them, you @#$!

The MoD or the COAS has NO say whatsoever when it comes to their employment, discipline, ACRs and punishments. Tomorrow when someone from the Coast Guards fcuks up, blame the Army again, as they too are commanded by Army/Navy Officers! The maximum that can be done is that if an officer is proved guility, he would be dealt with by the Civilian Laws and the Laws of the organization (FC, Rangers etc) and then he would be RTUed (returned to unit i.e. back to the army), but before he does that, he would have to undergo the punishment so awarded by the civilian law, and the Army or military would have no concern or say over the fringing decision thus made by the organization (Rangers etc). In very short, the military (including the Army, Navy and PAF) doesnt not exercise any control at any level over an officer (including the DGs) when deputed to these organizations, the MoI and the respective Chief Secretaries (of Provinces) are the bosses instead. And it doesnt take ounces of common sense to understand that when the COAS/Army/military does not exercise any right over such officers or over the actions/mistakes committed by (Ranger) personnel that it's mere idiotic to blame/accuse the Army for their misdeeds!! Go, squeeze R. Malik's balls instead! This may cause them to milk!!

This is what you get, when a bunch of ten year old's run riot on a defense forum.
 

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R.I.P to the dead.

In an ideal world, if he was a criminal, he would have been arrested and taken to the court, where his fate would have been decided. However people would agree that our country is far from ideal.

Dont we know what happens in our courts ? How many witness actually come to testify ? What kind of investigation is carried out by police ?

Just yesterday the courts set freed the culprits of Gojra incident, only because no one came to testify against them.

So what choice does police/rangers/army are left with ? When they know that majority Of criminals/terrorists they arrest would be seT free.

Dont curse the ranger guy, change the system.
 

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Those with crocodile tears, should know where the term "encounter specialist" originated from.
 

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you @#$!

Go, squeeze R. Malik's balls instead! This may cause them to milk!!

Just because you have failed to address my concerns in a good manner, There is no need to show your exasperation by calling me names or by giving such raunchy remarks.
 

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Your 'concerns' have been amply addressed. Not once, but atleast thrice. Only if you can make use of some comprehension or better even, really want to understand the mechanics involved in governance of Pakistan Armed Forces and Pakistan Civil Armed Forces, surely, by now, you should have cleared up all your doubts, but then, as i can see, that's not the case anymore. And as for the remainder of your yaps, well (un)fortunately, i am ruthlessly allergic to them, so bear with me!
 

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Oh yes genius, next time, when some PAF Base is attacked (God forbidden), blame the Army one more time.

i know that now you are just over loading your common sense as you cant get across that point that whether the CAFs are managed by Army Officers or whether it is the army Officers who hold inquiries (as should normally happen as they are the one responsible), they DO NOT report to the COAS, ARE NOT answerable to MoD, DOES NOT fall within the domain/sphere of the military law and DO NOT run.manage the organization by the laws, regulations and instructions the Army is bounded by, BUT they are answerable to the MoI (including the DG), they are governed by the CIVILIAN LAWS (i know you dont know a shyt about the difference between a Military Law and a Civilian one) and that they are paid by the respective Provinces, they perks for example like the batman are withdrawn from them as they no more form part of the MILITARY. The KPK has FC KPK, Balochistan has it's FC Balochistan, Punjab has Punjab Rangers and Sindh has Sindh Rangers, they all come under the MoI and just because they are run by Army Officer DOES NOT mean that the COAS can exercise his powers on them, you @#$!

The MoD or the COAS has NO say whatsoever when it comes to their employment, discipline, ACRs and punishments. Tomorrow when someone from the Coast Guards fcuks up, blame the Army again, as they too are commanded by Army/Navy Officers! The maximum that can be done is that if an officer is proved guility, he would be dealt with by the Civilian Laws and the Laws of the organization (FC, Rangers etc) and then he would be RTUed (returned to unit i.e. back to the army), but before he does that, he would have to undergo the punishment so awarded by the civilian law, and the Army or military would have no concern or say over the fringing decision thus made by the organization (Rangers etc). In very short, the military (including the Army, Navy and PAF) doesnt not exercise any control at any level over an officer (including the DGs) when deputed to these organizations, the MoI and the respective Chief Secretaries (of Provinces) are the bosses instead. And it doesnt take ounces of common sense to understand that when the COAS/Army/military does not exercise any right over such officers or over the actions/mistakes committed by (Ranger) personnel that it's mere idiotic to blame/accuse the Army for their misdeeds!! Go, squeeze R. Malik's balls instead! This may cause them to milk!!

Thank you for clarifying Xeric... Now would it hurt if a handsome young Army spokesperson in a suit would record all that you are saying in a calm manner and get it broadcasted on our news channels??
 

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From what I've learned about the Rangers so far, this type of act seems to be fairly normal as unfortunate as it may be. May the young boy RIP.
 

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