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Rafale Vs Su-30 MKi

Discussion in 'Indian Defence Forum' started by SpArK, Apr 19, 2014.

  1. he-man

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    Just tell me one thing mate.

    Whats the peak power output of irbis e and bars?

    That will answer ur question on why is irbis e a generation ahead of bars pesa.
     
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    20KW of Ibrs-E And RBE2AA assuming 1000 TRMs(863)Actual that would mean a stunning Average 8-10kW for the RBE2AA as peak power which would translate in a TRM output of 10 Kw each.Peak power for F-22 Raptor An/Apg 77 is 12 KW With 1500 TRMs
     
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  3. he-man

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    I knew that.
    The question was for sancho and he knows it too.

    Bars has a peak power of 8 kw and average will be 3-4kw.
    even irbis e with 18 kw has average power of just 5 kw only
     
  4. sancho

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    Lol, first the range advantage made AESA superior, as that didn't worked it was the tech itself and when I showed how you contradict yourself, it's now the power that makes BARS bab and even a full generation behind. :rolleyes:
     
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    I feel Sir @he-man is the biggest Indian troll on PDF. Although I have liked few of his posts, he is like 99% of the time trolling. :)
    @sancho
     
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    Point of comparison was bars and rbe2aa

    And not bars and irbis-e and its already established that it beats bars both in range and tech(obviously)

    Its u who is insisting on making a comparison,ppl already know what bars is.it was good 10 years back,not anymore.

    And go to tikhomirov niip site to check the specs of irbis e vs bars.

    It is indeed way superior to bars,again if u want to lie to the facts then be my guest dude.

    After all its a free country:rolleyes:
     
  7. he-man

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    Ya man u are totally right here.

    Anyone who speaks the truth here is trolling only.

    Let me tell u something.
    Why don't u research the above topic and give us ur expert non troll views?
     
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    Sir, I keep my mouth shut if I don't know of something and I know I offended you, sorry about that.

    My comment is not specific to the discussion you are having.
     
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    Wrong, you said that PESA is automatically inferior to AESA, which was the first wrong claim. Just that the RBE 2 has more range, which still needs to be seen (only if it has improved 100% in detection) and might only be in head on engagements. Then YOU brought up the IRBIS E and even there you claimed wrong things. So don't blame me for correcting your claims.
     
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    It's totally futile boss.
     
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    Indeed it is inferior to an aesa.

    U have a doubt on that too?
    :eek::eek::eek:
     
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    i think fighting is equivalent between two fighters so it will appear here the skill of the pilot......
     
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    i have a question for you please...
    when india requested su-30........it was so difficult for russia to put AESA radar in it... answer is NO
    so PESA radar has uses and AESA has uses.....
    i think PESA radar increase range and AESA radar gives more stealthy
    by the way russia put Irbis-E PESA radar for its original version of SU-35
    So not in all cases AESA radar can defeat PESA it comes here the role of tactics
    PLEASE correct my information if it is wrong??:-)