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Rafale vs. F-16 ۔ The real comparison is between the capabilities of the Pakistan air force and Indian air force

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With the exception of NATO combat exercises, the F-16 and the Rafale have never met in any real air combat. So people are wondering if the Pakistan Air Force's 30-year-old version of the F-16 will be able to compete with India's latest Rafale.

My rational and logical answer is that in cricket, the ability of a batsman is more important than the quality of the bat and the skill of an aviator plays a decisive role in aerial warfare.

The measure of a country's superiority in this cold war era is the capability of its warplanes and the modernity of other weapons. Therefore, every major country is in the race to become a super-military power by building more powerful fighter jets and destructive weapons than others. In fact, the economy of all major countries today is largely dependent on the arms industry, its demand and sale in the world market.

The lucrative armaments industry in Europe and the United States is alive and billions of dollars can be earned from the arms trade by creating hot climate of war and border tensions around the world.

After the humiliating defeat in Ladakh, the United States and European countries are exacerbating fears of a sense of inferiority in India, urging it to buy more and more advanced weapons. Under this pretext, their arms business is growing. And the corruption kingdoms of Narendra Modi are creating opportunities for the government to make money from commissions

The world knows that India lacks the art and the courage to use its sophisticated weapons to harm others. But India, the greatest enemy of peace, is a master at conspiracy theories in other countries, such as the Mukti Bahini, PTT and anti-state terrorism patronage of Baloch insurgents.

The Rafale vs. F-16 is more of a competition between US and French armaments than a comparison of Pakistani and Indian aircraft. Where India, despite doubling its apparent military might, suffers from an incurable feeling of inferiority, fearing the terror of Pakistani missiles and the magical capabilities of pilots.

Design, engine and basic features

Rafale is a 4.5 generation double-engine fighter and F-16 is a fourth generation single engine aircraft. The wingspan of the Raphael is 10.90 meters and that of the F16 is 9.96 meters. The length of the Raphael is 15.30 meters and that of the F-16 is 15.06 meters. Therefore, in terms of volume, the two planes are almost identical.

The empty Rafale weighs 10 tons while the F-16 weighs 9.2 tons. Raphael can carry 24.5 tons of weapons. The F-16 has a payload capacity of 21.7 tons. Therefore, due to the large number of weapons in the Rafale, it seems to have an apparent advantage over the F-16 in air combat. But according to world observers, Pakistani fighter pilots are far ahead of Indian fighter pilots in air combating skills.

Comparison of speed and combat radius

In the strike capability the F-16 has a clear lead over Rafale. The combat radius of F-16 is 4220 km but Rafale’s is only 3700 km. Pakistani F-16 also has a lead over Rafale in speed. The Rafale has a top speed of 2130 km ph while the F-16 has a range of 2414 km ph. With a greater ceiling ability of 300 meters per second Rafale has an advantage over F-16’s 254 meters per second. However, the altitude of both planes is 50,000 feet.

Comparison of weapons

The Rafale is equipped with Mica air-to-air missiles, SCALP long-range missiles, laser-guided bombs, AM39 anti-ship missiles, GIAT-30 guns, meteor long-range air-to-air missiles and air-to-surface weapons. F-16 can hit 20 targets identified in 84 km radius and Rafale can hit 40 targets identified in 100 km radius

On the other hand, F-16 has Penguin anti-ship missiles, cluster bombs, runway destroyers, AIM 9 sidewinder short-range air missiles, AIM-120 mid-range air missiles, GPS-guided bombs and other deadly Arms. The F-16 can also has nuclear weapons, conventional drop-bomb capabilities and a 20mm Vulcan gun.

According to the bragging Indian media, Rafale is equipped with semi-stealth technology but the F16 doesn't have that capability. Therefore, the combination of India's SU-30 and the Rafale would be disastrous for the Pakistan Air Force.

But Indian media should remember the Operation Swift Retort and the humiliating horror of the Indian Air Force with Russian SU-30 and Sukhoi, French Mirage 2000 and the British Jaguar. Pakistan old version F-16, self-made JF-17 Thunder and the 50 year old Mirage taught them a historical lesson that will always be remembered

The history of Pakistani pilots performance is more than an excellent. The Israeli planes that were destroyed by Pakistani pilots in the Arab-Israeli war were also much more powerful than the Arab planes. And in the Afghan war, Pakistan’s old version fighter jets successfully competed the latest Russian war planes of that time.

Where will India bring in air warfare artists like Pakistani M. M Alam who shot down 5 Indian jets within less than a minute and expert aviators like Hassan Siddiqui and Noman Khan who shot down modern Indian planes with old Pakistani planes.

Rafale can be bought from France, Indian pilots can be trained from USA and Israel. But the passion and talent of Pakistani pilots are not for sale in any market. The spirit of sacrificing one's life and the heroism for motherland are not found at shops

FAROOQ RASHID BUTT

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The real comparison of Pakistan F 16 should be with Mirage 2000 of India before upgrade. Now Mirage 2000 is a much better plane with much better electronics and EW.
 

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I am sorry but Rafale + AWACS + Meteor >> F-16C + Mechanical scanned radar + AIM-120C7.

What would most likely happen is that the Rafale's radar and electronic warfare system will jam the F-16Cs radar and then the F-16Cs will be shot down in droves using long-range Meteor shots.

Even 36 Rafales will tip the balance heavily to IAF as long as they are used effectively and there is little indication that the Indians cannot do that.

PAF desperate needs the JF-17 Block 3 to come into service.
 

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What would most likely happen is that the Rafale's radar and electronic warfare system will jam the F-16Cs radar and then the F-16Cs will be shot down in droves using long-range Meteor shots.
Rafale has very low RCS. Even before f 16 can see it, it will be scanned with AESA and meteor would have reached the target. poor F 16 pilot would not know what happened.
 

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Rafale has very low RCS. Even before f 16 can see it, it will be scanned with AESA and meteor would have reached the target. poor F 16 pilot would not know what happened.
Surprisingly, even the son of an Indian air marshal , a pilot of wing commander rank did not know what had happened to him before he took the cup of tea. :-)
 

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Rafale has very low RCS. Even before f 16 can see it, it will be scanned with AESA and meteor would have reached the target. poor F 16 pilot would not know what happened.

Actually it is not that low that it cannot be detected from maybe 250km by the Erieye's that Pakistan has and so Pakistan will know that Rafale's or some other kind of IAF fighter is around.

What the problem is that the Meteor has far greater "no escape range" than the AIM-120C7 and the Rafale's AESA radar and electronic warfare system is much more advanced that if a F-16C managed to get close it will be flying blind with a jammed radar.

There is no comparison between IAF Rafale and PAF F-16C.
 

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Actually it is not that low that it cannot be detected from maybe 250km by the Erieye's that Pakistan has and so Pakistan will know that Rafale's or some other kind of IAF fighter is around.
It can be detected but F16 which Pakistan has No AESA. They are very old planes. They have big RCS, not very contemporary Radar and BVR which is much inferior to METEOR and MICA. F 16 has no chance.
 

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The superstitious Narendra Modi's followers, the Indian friends, do not really know the difference between delusions and perfect belief of Pakistani
I am not a modi follower. And I speak on the basis of facts not delusions. Just see where your so called perfect beliefs have taken you.
 

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I personally think if PAF thinks its planes are out classed, they have an option to get J-10c or any other Chinese fighter plane over night.
 

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I am not a modi follower. And I speak on the basis of facts not delusions. Just see where your so called perfect beliefs have taken you.
Why did India give an old MiG-21 to its senior pilot Abhinandan despite having its Sekhoi, Jaguar and Mirage 2000 against Pakistan?

Did the frightened India really want to avoid the most expected humiliation in the event of the destruction of its modern aircraft by Pakistan fighter jets?

WITHOUT SELF BELIEF THERE IS NO SUCCESS AND WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT OUR MAGICIAN FIGHTER PILOTS CAN SHOOT DOWN RAFALE WITH OLD VERSION F-16 AND SELF MADE JF-17.
 

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The real comparison of Pakistan F 16 should be with Mirage 2000 of India before upgrade. Now Mirage 2000 is a much better plane with much better electronics and EW.
Once upon a time, Modified Indians use to live by belief that SU-30 is an overkill and MiG-29s are more than sufficient to take care of the PAF.....and guess what, when the test came, there were no MiG-29s to be seen anywhere....SU-30s and Mirage-2000s were bugging out with unrealistic excuses. ...claiming of short fuel and radar issues.
 

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Once upon a time, Modified Indians use to live by belief that SU-30 is an overkill and MiG-29s are more than sufficient to take care of the PAF.....and guess what, when the test came, there were no MiG-29s to be seen anywhere....SU-30s and Mirage-2000s were bugging out with unrealistic excuses. ...claiming of short fuel and radar issues.
But that was an under assumption. Mig 21 proved sufficient for F 16
 

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Yes in the modified world.....
It's a matter of shame for one of the largest airforces in the world, crying to America that PAF battered them with an AMRAAM stick.....the glum and miserable faces tell us the whole story.


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It is a great shame that India itself is buying arms from all over the world and objecting to others as to why you are selling arms to Pakistan. There is no shame in cunning and double face Indians.
 

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