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Radar Ranges Of Different Fighters

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  1. ahmadnawaz22

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    Sir Flanker cannot detect JF17 or F16 from 200km. Its all about RCS. see N011M Bars can detect planes of 1.5 to 2.5 M2 (like JF17 F16 Gripen etc) from only 110 to 120km away. And KLJ-7 on our JF17 and older PESA on F16blk52 can detect a huge plane with 10m2 rcs like Su30mki Flanker from almost same distance i.e 120-130km away.
    See thats a bit more technical that plan Ranges. MKI can be deadly to bigger planes like chinese Flankers or Western F15s. But against smaller planes. its range benefit is negated. And with 40G manuverable Missiles the Jet manuverability is irrelivant once fired upon that cannot go beyong 10g with living pilot aboard. So Flanker is not an Untouchable plane with absolute 100% kill probability against JF17 and F16 like some indians believe. It can be shot down by Thunders and Falcons.

    But still Jammimg Capability, Robust Data link mini awacs support, Thrust Vectoring and supperior Weapons Payload etc are totally different areas though that make indian MKI Flanker indeed a deadly and marvelous bird
     
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    Thread going off topic
     
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    n011m bars has detection range against mig 21 (approximately 3ms) size target = 76nm closing, 50 nm receding target.
     
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    Really! N011 Bars information afaik is highly classified... these range reported are purely speculative.
     
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    not really
     
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    @Last Samuri Stop this pathetic off topic crusade of yours, 3 different threads, all being dragged off topic.
     
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    Eurofighter Aims for AESA on Typhoon Jets
    Jul. 15, 2014 -By ANDREW CHUTER

    FARNBOROUGH, ENGLAND— Eurofighter executives held out the prospects of Typhoon fighters being fitted with an operational active electronically scanned array radar (AESA) within three years at a briefing at the Farnborough International Airshow July 15.

    “We don’t have a fixed, hard date for delivery, but we could have a first operational fielding for a frontline squadron in two to three years,” said Eurofighter capability manager Paul Smith.

    The Eurofighter manager was among several executives briefing reporters in a secure structure at the Farnborough International Airshow housing the first Typhoon fitted with a development version of the SelexES-led Euroradar consortium’s AESA.

    The debut of the Typhoon production-standard aircraft with the radar coincided with the announcement by Eurofighter partner nations Britain, Germany, Italy and Spain that they had finally committed to production of the radar.

    British Prime Minister David Cameron committed the Royal Air Force to the AESA radar during his speech opening the show July 14.

    The program still requires approval by the German Parliament before a contract can be signed, but it is expected that hurdle could be cleared by September, leading to signature in October, said one industry executive.

    Italian Defense Minister Roberta Pinottii, also weighed in with her commitment to the radar development telling reporters at the show“Italy is ready to do it’s part ... When you have an excellent product adding technological innovation to make it more competitive is an idea we share completely with our partners.”

    Aside from equipping the Eurofighter nations with a capability that all of its major US and French fighter rivals have in production, the radar is a key component if Typhoon is to succeed in fast-jet competitions being held in the Middle East and elsewhere.

    Swedish rival Saab is also set to become an AESA user, signing a production contract with radar supplier Selex ES for the sensor to be installed on it’s Gripen fighter.

    Eurofighter has operated its radar on the ground but expects to start test flight once the aircraft returns to it’s Warton factory in northwest England after the show.

    A second aircraft taken off the Tranche 3 production line in Germany is also being pitched for the flight-test program once installation of the radar is complete.

    Andrew Cowdery, the chairman of Euroradar, said one of the key tasks now being worked on aside from development was a reduction in the cost of production to make it price competitive.

    The Euroradar executive said the firm was still working on a separate UK AESA program aimed at maturing technology for RAF specific requirements.

    The Eurofighter partners agreed to a common baseline specification, but nations can develop their own capability if they require it, said Smith.

    Tranche 2 and Tranche 3 standard aircraft can be retrofitted with the radar, allowing Eurofighter users to upgrade their aircraft when required, the Typhoon maker said.

    The radar, known as the Captor-E, features a very large antenna size and uses a beam repositioner to give a wider field-of-view compared with the fixed-plate radar technology employed by other Western AESA suppliers, Eurofighter claims.

    Eurofighter Aims for AESA on Typhoon Jets | Defense News | defensenews.com
     
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    Gallium Nitride Gets Fighter Debut With Saab
    Jul. 15, 2014 -By TOM KINGTON

    FARNBOROUGH, ENGLAND— Gallium nitride, the semi-conductor material long seen as the next big thing in radar, is to be used by Saab on the Gripen E aircraft, officials said Tuesday at the Farnborough International Airshow.

    European and US firms have for years been plotting how to replace the gallium arsenide in their active electronically scanned array (AESA) radars with gallium nitride(GaN), which boosts power, but has been prohibitively expensive.

    Now, as US firms such as Raytheon begin to use them in ground radars, Sweden’s Saab is to use GaN on the Gripen E, albeit not in a radar, but in wingtip electronic warfare systems.

    The substance will be used in jammers and passive warning systems, boosting efficiency by 25 percent, said Ulf Nilsson, the head of the Gripen program.

    The firm recently announced it was using GaN in its Giraffe 4A land radar, with development underway for a launch customer.

    “GaN was costly but that has changed — it is now in mass production,” said a spokesman.

    Lennart Sindahl, Saab’s deputy CEO, told reporters that Saab was now ahead of the curve on GaN.

    “Our worst competitor said ‘you are now six years ahead of us.’”

    At Farnborough, Selex ES announced it had signed to supply its Raven AESA radar, which uses Gallium Arsenide, for the Gripen Es recently ordered by the Swedish government.

    Sindahl said upgrades are also being planned for the Gripen C/D, including the integration of the Meteor missile this year or next, and the integration of the Boeing Small Diameter Bomb.

    Saab has talked of developing an unmanned Gripen, but Sindahl said his focus is elsewhere.

    “Very few people in uniform talk to me about it. In Europe I get the feeling that people are pushing it because industries need something to do,” he said

    Gallium Nitride Gets Fighter Debut With Saab | Defense News | defensenews.com
     
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    I guess F-22 APG-77 230 km 490 km is maximum range ?
     
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    what do you mean by this F-22 APG-77 230 km:what:?
     
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    Aircraft/Radar Fighter Bomber

    EL/M-2032 47 km 100 km

    Eurofighter Captor (ex-ECR-90) ~175 km 370 km

    JA.37 Viggen PS-46/A 75 km max

    JAS.39 PS-05A 90 km 190 km

    F-4 AWG-10 38 km 80 km

    F-14A/B AWG-9 210 km 330 km

    F-14D APG-71 ~175 km 370 km

    F-15 APG-63/70 110-160 km 240 km

    F-15 APG-63(v)2 195 km 410 km

    F-16 APG-66 ~55 km ~105 km

    F-16 APG-66(v)2/3 70 km 130 km

    F-16 APG-68 80 km 140 km

    F-16 ABR 130 km 275 km

    F-18 APG-65 ~72 km ~ 150 km
    TWS of 10 targets at 74 km. HUD acquistion auto lock at ~9 km.

    F-18 APG-73 (APG-65 x 1.2) 85 km ~180 km

    F-20 APG-67 90 km ~130 km max

    F-22 APG-77 230 km 490 km

    MiG-21 RP-21 Spin Scan 9.5 km 20 km max

    MiG-21 RP-22 Saphir-21 14 km 30 km max

    MiG-23 High Lark 33 km 70 km

    MiG-23ML Sapfir-23ML 40 km 85 km

    MiG-25 RP-25 Smerch-A 47 km 100km

    MiG-25 Sapfir-25 66 km 140 km

    MiG-29 NO-19 Slot Back 70-100 km 100-150 km
    Tracks 10 targets, guides against 1.

    MiG-29 NO-10 88 km 186 km

    MiG-29 SMT-II NO-19ME Topaz 130 km 275 km

    MiG-31 Zaslon 110 km 240 km
    Tracks 10 guides 4

    MiG-35 RP-35 140 km 300 km

    Mirage F.1 Cyrano IV 45 km 96 km max

    Mirage 2000C-S1 to –S3 RDM 85 km 110 km

    Mirage 2000C-S4/5 RDI 110 km 190 km

    Mirage 2000-5 RDY 130-140 km 275 km
    F-22 APG-77 230 km 490 km


    I meant this only: F-22 APG-77 230 km 490 km
     
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    What is AN/APG-63(V)3 AESA radar range?
     
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    @gambit
    Thank you for responding, a few questions here from the video below.



    At 2:11 Mig-29 detected, because Mig-29 Radar was ON? what if Mig-29 radar was OFF?

    At 3:08, how did jamming occur? through listening to same frequency of SA-19 and sending back signal of same frequency from decicated T/R module of AESA? or was this done through DRFM of EW pod of F-35?