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Quetta: 4 FC Security Forces Soldiers Martyred by Suicide Bomber.

Discussion in 'Pakistan's Internal Security' started by Maarkhoor, Feb 28, 2018.

  1. Maarkhoor

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    Queta 4 security persons got martyred.

    Developing sad story...
     
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    R.I.P. Martyrs :sad:
     
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    Stooges of RAW Afghan scums doing all this on behest of India / R&AW, until we send all refugees back be ready to carry more young coffins.
     
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    Pretty sure there are rats in the FC Bln. A guy on foot entered the camp with 10kg explosives. RIP
     
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    Another Afghani exploded?
     
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    Most likely Afghan paid by a Indian .. what Great Neighbors we got
     
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    R.I.P brave soldiers.

    Sadly these incidents have become all to repetitive, it's the same suicide blast or gun attack, a minister condemns the attack "salutes the soldiers and martyrs" and moves on. The COAS does the same and vows to crush terrorism, the next day it happens again, and then it happens again and the day after, again. A week later the FC Balochistan does a photo-op of all explosives recovered and militants caught, gives a pat on it's own back and then the same incident happens.
    I have personally seen how Rangers tackled a more fearsome and more deadly insurgency (if you can call it that) in Karachi (which had a much larger foreign hands playing than Quetta), which by the way is more bigger than Quetta and gave excellent results, the same cannot be said about FC Balochistan. We will keep suffering from such incidents till we actually knock down the door of FCB and see what they are really up to.
    Let's be honest, no one in Karachi or Lahore or Islamabad or even Peshawar really cares about Quetta, Balochistan yes, because of Gawadar, but Quetta? No. Heck people in Quetta (apart from those living in the Cantt) are okay with soldiers being killed on the streets because quite frankly the militants are smart enough not to kill the common man (except minorities which including Christians, Shias etc). Because of this selective killing they are able to draw "sympathy" from the common majority in Quetta. This is very much similar to terror groups who once reigned supreme not a decade ago.
    FC Balochistan needs to get it's act together, moreover we need to stop hiding our incompetence and inability to tackle this issue using the Afghan refugee card (yes I want them to leave the country, but let's not blame them for our mistakes).
    Look at KPK how they went from a war zone to a now progressing province (yes they have serious security issues, but I'd rather live in Peshawar than in Quetta).

    TL;DR: These incidents are getting too repetitive, FC Balochistan in inept with dealing such scenarios, primarily due to there being local support for extremist militants, due to their selective killing tactics and our fault for blaming Afghan refugees to hide our incompetence instead of facing problems head on, like in KPK because we actually care about KPK, but not Quetta because even the rich and powerful of Quetta choose to leave it than to fight.

    Edit : Great, the cycle continues again:
    https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/fc-b...hideouts-in-chaman-sibi-uch-and-kohlu.546614/

    I fear that for Quetta, it's too late. Save Balochistan now.
     
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    Support and agree with most of your post. But there are a few things that I would like to add.

    Can't say for sure about local support part. Yeah obviously terrorists have a strong local network in and around Quetta but then they had similar kind of networks in Peshawar and Karachi too. But those networks were systematically dismantled by FC KPK, KPK police in Peshawar and Rangers and Sindh CTD in Karachi and hence we see decline in terror incidents in Karachi and Peshawar.

    Quetta is just part of a big story of negligence that whole of Balochistan is facing since past 70 years. These are small terror incidents for Pakistani state and I doubt anyone living in Rawalpindi or Islamabad care about these 4 dead FC soldiers or those 2 police guards that were killed today.

    What is lacking in Quetta is that it has a police system which is completely incompetent and has no role in dismantling terror networks that exist in Quetta. Quetta police is mostly limited to either VIP duty or just random local policing stuff like establishing check posts on busy roads and all that. They have no role in counter terror operations and also hence have no local intelligence system. And then FC balochistan which obviously is incompetent on various levels and hence is unable to do what is needed in absence of police.

    Without a proper local police intelligence and regular counter terrorism operations that are targeted towards destroying terror networks we would see similar incident happening again and again and again. I have little hope that Pakistani security establishment attitude would change after these incidents and all those incidents that are going to happen in future.

    You can't win war on terror by establishing check posts along side roads or by capturing arms cache from caves like FC balochistan usually do. You win war on terror by dismantling terror network and capturing and killing people who are part of that network. And at this moment that is not happening in Quetta or in Balochistan.
     
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    Ok we urgently need to revamp security of quetta completely
     
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    Agreed, what I meant by local support is a local network, but one has to be aware that like TTP and MQML they do have sympathizers. Remember last year a large network of militants were killed in a cave? That's the intensity of action that needs to be taken to kill of these rats, on a daily basis till they cease to exist.
     
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    Yeah I remember that operation. But that was just one operation and was obviously one network that was busted. There are many more in Balochistan and particularly in Quetta. Till they are busted and eliminated more terror incidents would keep on happening in Quetta in particular.