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the training and joint exercises will.give India vital experience for future conflict preparation with pakistan or China.

more than.that India projects power and prestige in South China Sea. important messages from.new Delhi
what conflict when you have zero experience in stealth, anti stealth domain?
 

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While Marcos have better standardized equipment compared to Para SF...their equipment is still not the best. Most of em still use the initial Tavor versions. The Israelis clearly stated the latest iterations of Tavor were developed based on inputs from Indian forces since we're the largest operators of Tavors

Secondly, Marcos do have some top notch equipment as revealed during Ladakh standoff but most of em are only equipped with what you see in the pictures in terms of personal gear

MARCOS Andaman & Nicobar unit featuring all black uniforms during a recent training exercise

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There was a picture circulating of them wearing AN/PVS-31 BNVDs but we considered not of India, but now it is 100% sure that these pics indeed were of MARCOS.
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It is more of a joint economic alliance than a military alliance, these are just exercises for namesake.
The costs would be enormous to India in coming years, if it continues the policy of "China hating" or in the case of the West "China Containment".

For example, you have to rush and pay $7 to $8 billions for Rafale, $2 bn for missiles from Israel just to be par with Pakistan. And not get intruded and attacked in broad day light by Pakistan like Feb 2019.

Imagine what it would take you to be par with China!! Considering if you ever could be and catch up China on its industrial and military industrial complex developments.
Even if you do in another 40 years, China would be 100 years ahead of you by that time.

Think, if you could.
 

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Who is asking for economic benefit? We are not asking USA for giving us money and all, QUAD is mostly an economic alliance in the making for making alternate supply chains and investments.
So far there is no sign of supply chains moving to India. But India has already paid the cost of being China's enemy. India has to deploy 200,000 soldiers along China-India border. Which is costly.
 

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The costs would be enormous to India in coming years, if it continues the policy of "China hating" or in the case of the West "China Containment".

For example, you have to rush and pay $7 to $8 billions for Rafale, $2 bn for missiles from Israel just to be par with Pakistan. And not get intruded and attacked in broad day light by Pakistan like Feb 2019.

Imagine what it would take you to be par with China!! Considering if you ever could be and catch up China on its industrial and military industrial complex developments.
Even if you do in another 40 years, China would be 100 years ahead of you by that time.

Think, if you could.
That all is just regular military purchases, it’s not a big amount for us, 8 billion might be a big one for you as your GDP is 270 billion USD, ours is over 3 Trillion.

Rafale deal was signed in 2016 if you don’t know.
So far there is no sign of supply chains moving to India. But India has already paid the cost of being China's enemy. India has to deploy 200,000 soldiers along China-India border. Which is costly.
Just because you don’t know doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
 

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Just because you don’t know doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
I think you Indians don't understand why China became wrold factory and India didn't. It's not because China joined in some alliance or anything. China gained success because China is China. India failed because India is India.

An eagle sometime flies lower than a chicken. But chicken can never flies as high as eagle can. 40 years ago China was as poor as India. It doesn't mean India can reach the level China already achieved today.
 

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I think you Indians don't understand why China became wrold factory and India didn't. It's not because China joined in some alliance or anything. China gained success because China is China. India failed because India is India.

An eagle sometime flies lower than a chicken. But chicken can never flies as high as eagle can. 40 years ago China was as poor as India. It doesn't mean India can reach the level China already achieved today.
I bet that if u still have job, then your boss just stamped down your salary like other million CN workers, too bcs that's the only way to make your real bosses (Apple, Nike) will not abandon CN :lol:

 

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That all is just regular military purchases, it’s not a big amount for us, 8 billion might be a big one for you as your GDP is 270 billion USD, ours is over 3 Trillion.

Rafale deal was signed in 2016 if you don’t know.

Just because you don’t know doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
Your GDP nominal is now lower than $3 tn, while Pakistan is close to £300 bn.

I think I have already given a lesson on Per Capita GDP and how irrelevant it is, unless all other factors are considered. Too much for you to understand.

As for Pakistan GDP, it could have been higher, it still would be higher over time, once Rupees settled in.

I illustrate for you to understand what I mean.
To understand it, you have to look at Pakistani economic data in Pakistani rupees terms.

Pakistani gdp in millions of rupees

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All figures from Pakistan Bureau of Statistics.

As you can see the GDP in rupees terms have seen considerable increase. Despite substantial increase in population, GDP per capita has increased from 181441 to 246414.

Conversion to the US $ where the problem is. In 2018 at the time of PMLN government the Rupee to the dollar was hovering around Rs 108 to 1 US $. At the moment it is Rs 163 to 1 US $, or roughly $152 to 1 US $ at the time of these figures. It has gone down considerably in last few days.

Rs 181441 @ 108 = $1680.00
Rs 246414 @108 = $2281.00
If dollars stayed at 2018 level, the Nominal GDP per Capita would have been $2281.00

While due to devaluation of rupees, it is at the time of the publication

Rs 246414 @ 152 = $1621.00 therefore, despite over 35% increase in GDP in rupees terms since 2018, it is still lower in dollars terms compared to 2018.

Total GDP (millions)
Rs 36462453 @ 108 = $337615.30 Millions or $ 337.6 billion
Rs 52222614 @ 108 = $483542.72 Millions or $ 483.5 billion (should have been in 2018 exchange rate)
RS 52222614 @152 = $343569.82 millions or $ 343.5 billion


This post is for all the Pakistani posters as well, who get swayed by stupid comments of illiterate Pakistani journalists.
 

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terrorism ?? CN attacked VN in 2014 first, we fought back, PLA lost and cowardly escaped , then we r terrorism ?? Reported for insulting the others
anti china protest which turned into a riot, it is your countries mobs burning foreign assets and you seem to be enjoyed mobs killing foreign workers, innocent civilians, which makes you a terrorist supporter.
 

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anti china protest which turned into a riot, it is your countries mobs burning foreign assets and you seem to be enjoyed mobs killing foreign workers, innocent civilians, which makes you a terrorist supporter.
None of them were charged for terrorism, they have the right to kill the bulliers/invaders, even CN govt also dare not ask for compensation after 16 Cnese were killed, hundreds Cnese were beaten in 2014 conflict .

They quietly admit their loss and dare not bully VN again (send the rig to the disputed zones again ) till now while more and more CN factories (Luxxshare, CN auto part suppliers) keep fleeing to VN.

SO, stop lying and personal attack that violating the forum rules.
 
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feeling proud of rioter and mob? what a lowly creature, reported for supporting terrorism,bye.
The reality is different from those jungle beggar's dream world...The reality is harsh for those cretures as we only see those creatures crying like bitxches in 2014:
 

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None of them were charged for terrorism, they have the right to kill the bulliers/invaders, even CN govt also dare not ask for compensation after 16 Cnese were killed, hundreds Cnese were beaten in 2014 conflict .

They quietly admit their loss and dare not bully VN again (send the rig to the disputed zones again ) till now while more and more CN factories (Luxxshare, CN auto part suppliers) keep fleeing to VN.

SO, stop lying and personal attack that violating the forum rules.
You are sinking to new low level each post, no longer a human being.
 

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That all is just regular military purchases, it’s not a big amount for us, 8 billion might be a big one for you as your GDP is 270 billion USD, ours is over 3 Trillion.

Rafale deal was signed in 2016 if you don’t know.

Just because you don’t know doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
Yes but not to india. Vietnam is the biggest gainer along with other south east Asian countries.


Similarly, because of the US-China trade war that started in March 2018, it was expected that many US companies would leave China and come to India. However, only three of the 56 companies that exited China had entered India as of October 2019. Of those 56 firms, 26 relocated to Vietnam, 11 went to Taiwan, and eight to Thailand.
 

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