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who said that the seeker,explosives,speed,maneuverability is trash ?

Turkiye has state of the art missiles to turn Rafale into crap of metal

-- 250 km 48N6E3 Missile with speed of mach 5.9 ( S400 )
-- 120 km AIM-120C7 air to air missile

-- 100 km SIPER missile with speed of mach 4 and State-of-the-art active RF seeker

also 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air missile

State-of-the-art active RF seeker
Unique warhead design for maximum probability of kill
Advanced counter-countermeasures (ECCM)
Who says it's state of the art? TRT and Yeni Safak?

Everything that the Turkish side defends is the articles that Greece signed and accepted in the Lausanne and Paris agreements.
Those articles were superseded by other agreements later,but like you said...let's not f*** the thread with this anymore. We always arrive at the same conclusion: We disagree.
 

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Who says it's state of the art? TRT and Yeni Safak?

ASELSAN which is one of the top defence companies in the world for electronics , avionics , e/o systems , electronic warfare systems , radars , IIR - RF seekers etc

HISAR-O , SIPER , BOZDOGAN and GOKDOGAN missiles


Also most modern Russian and American missiles

-- 250 km 48N6E3 Missile with speed of mach 5.9 ( S400 )
-- 120 km AIM-120C7 air to air missile
 
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Greece only trust its so-called alliances which decieve greece for their regional interests but they will leave on the road greece in any bad situation.

Btw Turkiye already supported by a lot of Muslim countries without anounce any help from anyone so we prepared our selves for worst case.

If any war occured between greece and Turkiye it would be big demolition for greece. I hope they will make up their mind.
 

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I said, no UN resolution or permits a state to expand its sovereignty to imprison another state.

Also, the maximalist goals (the limits in question in the Convention are the maximum depths) advocated by the Greek concession in UNCLOS are essentially about the high seas.

In maritime law, a state sharing a common maritime area, including UNCLOS, cannot unilaterally usurp the maritime rights of the other state. This principle of mutual agreement is also clearly stated in UNCLOS.

Also, in maritime law, islands cannot close the continental shelves of the mainland. There is the prinsiple about it, mainland can not closurable by islets or islands.

Everything that the Turkish side defends is the articles that Greece signed and accepted in the Lausanne and Paris agreements.

Greece is trying to impose both an agreement that Turkiye is not a signatory, by withdrawing/eroded from the agreements it is a signatory to. But even in the agreement it imposes, it tries to bring a maximalist dream into a fait accompli, completely ignoring many principles.

Turkish-Greek maritime jurisdictions and territorial sea disputes are not unique in the world. UK, France, USA, Spain, Italy etc. There are similar disagreements in many parts of the world, and the result of most of the events in which mutual agreement was reached refutes the thesis defended by the Greeks.

However, refraining from discussing them and bombarding off-topic spamming under a completely unrelated forum thread leads us to the same conclusion once again.
Of course there are disagreements, but there are no casus belli, as Turkey does in Greece.
Don't get tired of it, Turkey does not like to apply neither good neighborly relations, nor International Law, nor does it even recognize the jurisdiction of International Courts.
It just threatens, invades and annexes.
This about maximalism is part of the narrative, which is drenched in revisionism. Greece is clear: any dispute we have, and of course it does not concern national sovereignty, we go to the International Court of Justice. We did it ourselves in 1976, and two years later Turkey's intentions became apparent.
 

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For ΜME-E, Turkey has gone to Star Trek level.

You dont know even what about military

Passive Radar Systems can detect F-35s


Tests Conducted in Passive Radar Systems (PARS) Project

President of Defense Industry ISMAIL DEMIR .. 05.10.2021
“The tests of the prototypes developed for Passive Radar Systems which will increase our resistance against electronic warfare . and support our armed forces in the detection of stealth Fighter Jets , were successfully completed at the beginning of this year"

 

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You dont know even what about military

Passive Radar Systems can detect F-35s


Tests Conducted in Passive Radar Systems (PARS) Project

President of Defense Industry ISMAIL DEMIR .. 05.10.2021
“The tests of the prototypes developed for Passive Radar Systems which will increase our resistance against electronic warfare . and support our armed forces in the detection of stealth Fighter Jets , were successfully completed at the beginning of this year"

If Ismail Demir said it,then it must be true 🙄
 

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And beggar Turkey asking for Americans to sell them F-16s and Russians to sell them Su-35s. And Germans to give them engines. Generally,you seem to ignore how much Erdogan has been asking for a date with Biden.


lol

troll is trolling, irrational post nothing more.

the isseu is Greece is begging americans not to sell fighters to Turkey:-).



nice try troll...
 

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so funny

to believe a troll called Foinikas instead of President of Defense Industry ?
I'll bet you also believe everything your President says,the MoD and the AKP party line.

Demir's job is to exalt the Turkish defense industry. What do you expect him to say? "We can't figure this out,we can't figure that out,we copied this from this,we used low-quality parts there"?
 

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I'll bet you also believe everything your President says,the MoD and the AKP party line.

Demir's job is to exalt the Turkish defense industry. What do you expect him to say? "We can't figure this out,we can't figure that out,we copied this from this,we used low-quality parts there"?


Turkiye is selling weapons to 170 countries
Turkish weapons kicked all of you in Syria,Libya and Karabakh
year by year most modern high quality Turkish weapons enter service


still a jealous and anti-Turkiye Greek troll is trying to denigrate the Turkish Defense Industry


even Our guys dont show everything what we have now ....
or Greeks would lose their sleep with fear .... wait and see what will happen in 2023 which is the 100th anniversary of the proclamation of the Turkish Republic
 
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