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Qatar Signs $12 Billion Deal for U.S. F-15 Jets Amid Gulf Crisis

Super Falcon

Jul 3, 2008
United Arab Emirates
USA playing with both parties to grab as many money on useless weapons than let them fight same old game of Iraq and kuwait being played and these idiots don't understand

Kingdom of saudia has lost all respect from Muslim hearts after their behavior with Muslim of Qatar and Iran is intolerance

mike2000 is back

Apr 12, 2015
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
they never learn
qatar better make alliance with more trusted friends like turkey and solve it issues with arab countries
Huh...Turkey itself is a western ally and part of "evil Christian" NATO , plus they have been buying fighter jets from the West now for decades. So why pick on a Qatar(which is a small but very influential country) for buying advanced fighter jets from western power. You people shouldn't be jealous about the way rich Gulf states decide to spend THEIR money.:)

F-15 series aircraft (SA and SE) are huge and versatile - ideal for long-range operations in a few sorties. It is not logical to compare cost of an F-15 series aircraft with those of MMRCA because F-15 series aircraft pack superior mobility, range and payload capacity than any MMRCA in service, making them cost-effective and practical for combat operations in the long-term. And a package like that typically includes armaments and other stuff.

F-15 series aircraft capabilities at a glance:-
  • Max speed: 2.5 Mach
  • Max ceiling: 70,000 feet (21,336 m)
  • Max unfueled range: 2,600 nautical miles
  • Max takeoff weight: 81,000 pounds (36,741 kilograms)
  • Max weapons load: 29,500 pounds (13,381 kilograms)
  • Max load factor: 9.0 G’s
  • Combat radius: 1,000 nautical miles (including 20-minute loiter)

Source: http://www.boeing.com/defense/f-15-eagle/

Show me an MMRCA that comes close to that.

Those states know what they are doing.

Oh please.

F-15 series is far from being obsolete in current times; it is continuously evolving with the latest Silent Eagle model having stealthy design and approved for export. These are very large and practical birds for combat operations with no substitute in the markets at present. And contrary to popular belief, latest variants of F-15 are absolutely state-of-the-art birds.


The F-15SA is also equipped with Lockheed Martin’s AN/AAS-42 infrared search and track system. And all of that information from the radar, infrared search and track and the electronic warfare system are fused together—similar to the F-22 and F-35—into a coherent picture. That picture is displayed on large-format color displays that are similar to those found on the F-35—in both the front and rear cockpits. Both aviators are equipped with the Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System. Taken together, the F-15SA is an extremely formidable multirole fighter—possibly the single best fourth generation fighter the United States has ever produced.

When the Boeing F-15A first flew in July 1972, the Eagle was the ultimate air superiority fighter. Fast, high-flying, agile and built around a massive APG-63 pulse-doppler radar, the Soviet Union had nothing that could match it. Overtime, McDonnell Douglas—the F-15’s original manufacturer before its merger with Boeing—adapted the airframe into a potent multirole fighter that eventually became the F-15E Strike Eagle. While both the air superiority oriented F-15C and the strike-oriented F-15E will remain in service with the U.S. Air Force for decades to come, by far the most advanced current version of the Eagle has been ordered by Saudi Arabia. But will that be enough compete with Lockheed Martin’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter?

Saudi Arabia has ordered some 84 new-build F-15SAs and 70 upgrade kits [3] to retrofit their existing Strike Eagles to the new standard. When the massive $29.5 billion contract was signed December 2011, it was the largest foreign military sale in the history of the United States. In the ensuing years, Boeing has developed and tested the upgraded jets, which are powered by General Electric F110 engines rather than Pratt & Whitney F100s. The company is finally starting to get ready to deliver the aircraft. The first of the new jets rolled out of the Boeing plant in Saint Louis, Mo., earlier this earlier in April [4].

Perhaps the single most significant upgrade found in the F-15SA package is a fly-by-wire flight control system [5]—previous versions of the Eagle used a hybrid computer augmented stability system. The addition of the fly-by-wire system allowed Boeing to reactivate the F-15’s two dormant outboard wing hardpoints that had always been present, but never used. The problem previously had been stability differences induced by carrying weapons on stations one and nine.

Additionally, the F-15SA is equipped with the advanced APG-63 v.3 [6] active electronically scanned array (AESA)—though, potentially, future customers might order the more capable APG-82 [7] that is being retrofitted to U.S. Air Force’s own Strike Eagles. The F-15SA is also equipped with BAE’s advanced Digital Electronic Warfare System (DEWS), [8] which has digital radio-frequency memory jamming capability.

The new digital system looks across an entire frequency band continuously [9] rather than scanning through a frequency band—which means that even low probability of intercept (LPI) signals might be detected (radars on stealth fighters like the F-22 and F-35 use LPI techniques to try mask their emissions for electronic support measures suites). Further, its interferometric antennas can generate far more accurate bearing measurements than the current system.

The DEWS’ performance is probably comparable to the F-22’s or F-35’s electronic support measures suites since it is based on those systems. It’s head and shoulders better than anything currently fielded by the U.S. Air Force’s own Strike Eagles. U.S. Air Force jets won’t have anything comparable until the Eagle Passive/Active Warning and Survivability System (EPAWSS) is fielded.

The F-15SA is also equipped with Lockheed Martin’s AN/AAS-42 [10] infrared search and track system. And all of that information from the radar, infrared search and track and the electronic warfare system are fused together—similar to the F-22 and F-35—into a coherent picture. That picture is displayed on large-format color displays that are similar to those found on the F-35—in both the front and rear cockpits. Both aviators are equipped with the Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System. [11] Taken together, the F-15SA is an extremely formidable multirole fighter—possibly the single best fourth generation fighter the United States has ever produced.

Source: http://nationalinterest.org/print/b...f-15-kill-f-35-stealth-fighter-dogfight-21149

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1. 5th generation aircraft (as per American standards) are no where close to mass-scale deployment anywhere in the world. They are very expensive to procure in large numbers on top.

2. The only 5th generation substitute for an F-15 series aircraft is F-22 Raptor and US will not sell it.

3. F-15 series aircraft retain a number of functions that are only found in 5th generation aircraft. F-15 Silent Eagle model has stealthy characteristics as well and is bordering 5th generation in design.



Oct 26, 2009
Holy Crap 12 Billion Dollar for 35 Planes with equipment? :o:

What is with these Arabs. They keep feeding all there money to American companies feeding them with with overpriced defense equipment.
China bought 24 state of the art Su35 for 2 Billion Dollars. they could have bought an armada of deadly Russian weapons with state of the art air defense SAMs and Latest Flankers with Armaments.
But Arabs never learn. They will always prefer foreign powers to defend them instead of defending themselves. They should also hire American pilots along with those 30 odd jets. for an extra billion dollars


Dec 14, 2010
United States

Anthony Capaccio
Nick Wadhams
June 14, 2017, 11:30 AM PDT June 14, 2017, 1:47 PM PDT
  • Contract comes as Qatar seeks easing of Saudi-led embargo
  • Decision is latest in string of mixed messages from the U.S.

Qatar will sign a deal to buy as many as 36 F-15 jets from the U.S. as the two countries navigate tensions over President Donald Trump’s backing for a Saudi-led coalition’s move to isolate the country for supporting terrorism.

Qatari Defense Minister Khalid Al-Attiyah and his U.S. counterpart, Jim Mattis, completed the $12 billion agreement on Wednesday in Washington, according to the Pentagon.

The sale “will give Qatar a state of the art capability and increase security cooperation and interoperability between the United States and Qatar,” the Defense Department said in a statement.

Read Why Tiny Qatar Angers Saudi Arabia and Its Allies

Tillerson has since sought to mediate the dispute from Washington, meeting with Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister on Monday. He was scheduled to meet the foreign minister of the U.A.E. -- another member of the Saudi coalition -- for dinner Wednesday night.

“I would characterize the mood and the approach to that as being one that is hopeful, that believes that the worst is behind us,” State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said Tuesday.

U.S. Presence
While Trump appeared to back Saudi Arabia and Tillerson took a more neutral tone, the Defense Department underscored its relations with Qatar, saying the U.S. was grateful to the country for its support of the U.S. presence there.

“We encourage all our partners in the region to work towards common solutions that enable regional security,” Lieutenant Colonel Damien Pickart, a spokesman for U.S. Air Forces Central Command, said in a statement when the crisis began.

Last year, after the State Department approved the jet sale, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency issued a report saying that the proposed sale “enhances the foreign policy and national security of the United State by helping to improve the security of a friendly country and strengthening our strategically important relationship.”

“Qatar is an important force for political stability and economic progress in the Persian Gulf region,” the agency said.

US technology and hardware is the best, so wise decision by the Qatris.


Oct 18, 2009
Relation between Turkey-China is not bad at all, there is no crisis or problematic situation between two states. It should be blue.

Turkey-Iran relationship is not so good, there are small crisis between two nation in every 3-4 months. It shouldn't be blue or red, but orange i think.

Turkey is not enemy of Saudi-UAE neither, there is a possibility to be but i honestly don't think so. It should be orange color as well since they don't seem ally neither.

Turkey-Qatar could be shown as thick blue line since it's obvious that we are ally with Qatar, we are even going to put 5.000 troops in Turkish military base in Qatar.

Pakistan-US relationship is not "enemy" kind neither. It is complicated, both sides have agreements and disagreements. It could be shown as orange as well.



Sep 19, 2010
Trump's First Briefing

Trump's first day at the Oval Office. First briefing by the CIA, Pentagon, FBI.

Trump: We must destroy ISIS immediately.
CIA: We cannot do that, sir. We created them along with Turkey, Saudi, Qatar and others.
Trump: The Democrats created them.
CIA: We created ISIS, sir. You need them or else you would lose funding from the natural gas lobby.
Trump: Stop funding Pakistan. Let India deal with them.
CIA: We can't do that.
Trump: But you have to destroy the Taliban.
CIA: Sir, we can't do that. We created the Taliban to keep Russia in check during the 80s. Now they are keeping Pakistan busy and away from their nukes.
Trump: We have to destroy terror sponsoring regimes in the Middle East. Let us start with the Saudis.
Pentagon: Sir, we can't do that. We created those regimes because we wanted their oil. We can't have democracy there, otherwise their people will get that oil - and we cannot let their people own it.
Trump: Then, let us invade Iran.
Pentagon: We cannot do that either, sir.
Trump: Why not?
CIA: We are talking to them, sir.
Trump: What? Why?
CIA: We want our stealth drone back. If we attack them, Russia will obliterate us as they did to our buddy ISIS in Syria. Besides we need Iran to keep Israel in check.
Trump: Then let us invade Iraq again.
CIA: Sir, our friends (ISIS) are already occupying 1/3rd of Iraq.
Trump: Why not the whole of Iraq?
CIA: We need the Shi'ite gov't of Iraq to keep ISIS in check.
Trump: I am banning Muslims from entering US.
FBI: We can't do that.
Trump: Why not?
FBI: Then our own population will become fearless.
Trump: I am deporting all illegal immigrants to south of the border.
Border patrol: You can't do that, sir.
Trump: Why not?
Border patrol: If they're gone, who will build the wall?
Trump: I am banning H1Bs.
USCIS: You cannot do that.
Trump: Why?
Chief of staff: If you do so we'll have to outsource White House operations to Bangalore. Which is in India.
Trump: What the hell should I do???
CIA: Enjoy the White House, sir! We will take care of the rest!!!


Nov 25, 2016


Feb 14, 2016
Good for them and their defense in the long run. The current dispute between us should hopefully be temporary and end soon. The real enemy is and has always been the Persian Iranians on the other side.
the worst enemy is your this thinking which increases sectarianism between the muslim countries. the "real "enemies must be laughing at your and your govt's stupidity .
the arabs have gone nuts . they cant understand a very simple fact that USA is making them fight each other and getting rich by selling weapons to both the fighting parties. idiot arabs.

Oh yeah so what about him ? You all are hating arabs we know it
no one hates arabs we just hate the the policies their govts are implementing which will soon burn down whole of the ME and trust me if they keep on following the same game plan one by one all of them will pay heavy price of their current days of enjoyment in bed with the devil.

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