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Qatar Signs $12 Billion Deal for U.S. F-15 Jets Amid Gulf Crisis

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  1. Skies

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    Trying to find balance but it's so much complex!
     
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    looks legit - except maybe you forgot a red line from USA to Iran
     
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    $12 billion for how many just 21 F-15?!

    US is openly exploiting the f*ck outa Arabs by overcharging them by the multiples of 700%!!!!!!

    I just can not be believe that this is happening so openly. Arabs, your leadership has literally sold you out in world market

    Shameful

    @ARABIC @Saiful Islam @Arabic_Ottoman
     
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    Humain da dain 12 billion ap ko 6th generation fighter jet bana ke dain gay.
    Itna main to aik air craft crarrier a gaya ga , pakistan ko lai dain , pakistan can install nuclear weapons on it and place it in middle east to protect qatar and saudia from iran.
     
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    Guess the Saudis are going to take a "hard" stance on the US now.
     
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    Relation between Turkey-China is not bad at all, there is no crisis or problematic situation between two states. It should be blue.

    Turkey-Iran relationship is not so good, there are small crisis between two nation in every 3-4 months. It shouldn't be blue or red, but orange i think.

    Turkey is not enemy of Saudi-UAE neither, there is a possibility to be but i honestly don't think so. It should be orange color as well since they don't seem ally neither.

    Turkey-Qatar could be shown as thick blue line since it's obvious that we are ally with Qatar, we are even going to put 5.000 troops in Turkish military base in Qatar.

    Pakistan-US relationship is not "enemy" kind neither. It is complicated, both sides have agreements and disagreements. It could be shown as orange as well.
     
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    12 billion for only 36 F-15s?

    Qatar also has Rafales on order, pretty impressive air force for a tiny country.
     
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    Let it be a reference for any folks asking for any favor from Uncle Trump!!!!! Some folks have the habit of taking Uncle as granted!!!!!
     
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    they never learn
    qatar better make alliance with more trusted friends like turkey and solve it issues with arab countries
     
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    wow...... trumps taking these Persian gulf arabs to the cleaners.

    look at what happened to the f-22. and look how desperate france is to get rafaele orders...
    if orders don't come, The capability to produce ends.

    American defence executives must be dancing in their offices. trump getting them these juicy overpriced contracts from persian gulf arabs with more money than intelligence.
     
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    12 bilion and just 36 F-15 ?
    WHAT THE FUC..........:o::o::o::o:
     
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    F-15 series aircraft (SA and SE) are huge and versatile - ideal for long-range operations in a few sorties. It is not logical to compare cost of an F-15 series aircraft with those of MMRCA because F-15 series aircraft pack superior mobility, range and payload capacity than any MMRCA in service, making them cost-effective and practical for combat operations in the long-term. And a package like that typically includes armaments and other stuff.

    F-15 series aircraft capabilities at a glance:-
    • Max speed: 2.5 Mach
    • Max ceiling: 70,000 feet (21,336 m)
    • Max unfueled range: 2,600 nautical miles
    • Max takeoff weight: 81,000 pounds (36,741 kilograms)
    • Max weapons load: 29,500 pounds (13,381 kilograms)
    • Max load factor: 9.0 G’s
    • Combat radius: 1,000 nautical miles (including 20-minute loiter)

    Source: http://www.boeing.com/defense/f-15-eagle/

    Show me an MMRCA that comes close to that.

    Those states know what they are doing.

    Oh please.

    F-15 series is far from being obsolete in current times; it is continuously evolving with the latest Silent Eagle model having stealthy design and approved for export. These are very large and practical birds for combat operations with no substitute in the markets at present. And contrary to popular belief, latest variants of F-15 are absolutely state-of-the-art birds.

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    The F-15SA is also equipped with Lockheed Martin’s AN/AAS-42 infrared search and track system. And all of that information from the radar, infrared search and track and the electronic warfare system are fused together—similar to the F-22 and F-35—into a coherent picture. That picture is displayed on large-format color displays that are similar to those found on the F-35—in both the front and rear cockpits. Both aviators are equipped with the Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System. Taken together, the F-15SA is an extremely formidable multirole fighter—possibly the single best fourth generation fighter the United States has ever produced.

    When the Boeing F-15A first flew in July 1972, the Eagle was the ultimate air superiority fighter. Fast, high-flying, agile and built around a massive APG-63 pulse-doppler radar, the Soviet Union had nothing that could match it. Overtime, McDonnell Douglas—the F-15’s original manufacturer before its merger with Boeing—adapted the airframe into a potent multirole fighter that eventually became the F-15E Strike Eagle. While both the air superiority oriented F-15C and the strike-oriented F-15E will remain in service with the U.S. Air Force for decades to come, by far the most advanced current version of the Eagle has been ordered by Saudi Arabia. But will that be enough compete with Lockheed Martin’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter?

    Saudi Arabia has ordered some 84 new-build F-15SAs and 70 upgrade kits [3] to retrofit their existing Strike Eagles to the new standard. When the massive $29.5 billion contract was signed December 2011, it was the largest foreign military sale in the history of the United States. In the ensuing years, Boeing has developed and tested the upgraded jets, which are powered by General Electric F110 engines rather than Pratt & Whitney F100s. The company is finally starting to get ready to deliver the aircraft. The first of the new jets rolled out of the Boeing plant in Saint Louis, Mo., earlier this earlier in April [4].

    Perhaps the single most significant upgrade found in the F-15SA package is a fly-by-wire flight control system [5]—previous versions of the Eagle used a hybrid computer augmented stability system. The addition of the fly-by-wire system allowed Boeing to reactivate the F-15’s two dormant outboard wing hardpoints that had always been present, but never used. The problem previously had been stability differences induced by carrying weapons on stations one and nine.

    Additionally, the F-15SA is equipped with the advanced APG-63 v.3 [6] active electronically scanned array (AESA)—though, potentially, future customers might order the more capable APG-82 [7] that is being retrofitted to U.S. Air Force’s own Strike Eagles. The F-15SA is also equipped with BAE’s advanced Digital Electronic Warfare System (DEWS), [8] which has digital radio-frequency memory jamming capability.

    The new digital system looks across an entire frequency band continuously [9] rather than scanning through a frequency band—which means that even low probability of intercept (LPI) signals might be detected (radars on stealth fighters like the F-22 and F-35 use LPI techniques to try mask their emissions for electronic support measures suites). Further, its interferometric antennas can generate far more accurate bearing measurements than the current system.

    The DEWS’ performance is probably comparable to the F-22’s or F-35’s electronic support measures suites since it is based on those systems. It’s head and shoulders better than anything currently fielded by the U.S. Air Force’s own Strike Eagles. U.S. Air Force jets won’t have anything comparable until the Eagle Passive/Active Warning and Survivability System (EPAWSS) is fielded.

    The F-15SA is also equipped with Lockheed Martin’s AN/AAS-42 [10] infrared search and track system. And all of that information from the radar, infrared search and track and the electronic warfare system are fused together—similar to the F-22 and F-35—into a coherent picture. That picture is displayed on large-format color displays that are similar to those found on the F-35—in both the front and rear cockpits. Both aviators are equipped with the Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System. [11] Taken together, the F-15SA is an extremely formidable multirole fighter—possibly the single best fourth generation fighter the United States has ever produced.


    Source: http://nationalinterest.org/print/b...f-15-kill-f-35-stealth-fighter-dogfight-21149

    For more information:

    http://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-americas-enemies-still-fear-the-f-15-eagle-16897

    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...stealth-raptor-the-ultimate-combination-20033

    http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/boeing-f15se-silent-eagle/

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    1. 5th generation aircraft (as per American standards) are no where close to mass-scale deployment anywhere in the world. They are very expensive to procure in large numbers on top.

    2. The only 5th generation substitute for an F-15 series aircraft is F-22 Raptor and US will not sell it.

    3. F-15 series aircraft retain a number of functions that are only found in 5th generation aircraft. F-15 Silent Eagle model has stealthy characteristics as well and is bordering 5th generation in design.



    F-15 Silent Eagle model real footage:



    Man, what a beautiful bird it is.

    Indeed.

    Lagta hay kay aap nei feasibility report bana rakhee hai. Aap factory kaab open kar rahe hain?
     
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  14. Mitho1980

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    But Qatar is a terrorist sponsoring country. Why is us selling arms to it?
     
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    Just like Cold War as all the European countries had huge armed forces and their demand was huge but that has gone down after soviet fall. Trump has created another source of income sell weapon to spoil rich Arabs. Both parties want USA help. I tell you we should be as far from them as possible. These Arabs have brought us nothing other than sectarian violence . FYI Saudi also sponsor terrorism in Syria so what do we call it
     
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