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Qatar Rafale, Pak hands

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    Qatar Rafale's to perform in air show, in Pakistan pilots hands

    Let this be assurance of guarantee the much anticipated Rafale's of Qatar airways force are to be flown by all Pakistani pilots as Qatar reveals the story themselves. No story tracing from 3rd party or affiliated sources.

    This story brings new facts on usage statistics on Rafale's inside know how, the Indians can manipulate, falsify, data fabricate but their is no denying the Pakistani pilots have upper first hand knowledge of the aircraft fighter first hand flight training hours of weakness to strength.

    Maybe the Indians need to understand it is time to manufacture their own fighters program in order to build success.Maybe the Indians are looking for shortcuts to press the button syndrome to win dog fights?

    Maybe Indians know that their strength is in their money purchases power.
    Whatever that may drive the Indians in their air Force programs they need the mentality of winners not losers from recent balakot surgical strikes in famous February 2019?
    May this bring furthermore deteriorating effects to Indo French deal for IAF in future.

    Qatar Rafale, Pak hands
    Source https://www.deccanherald.com/opinion/main-article/qatar-rafale-pak-hands-733696.html
     
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    While the rumors related to Pakistani pilots flying the Rafale may be exaggerated.
    Indian pilots train and fly with F-16s from Singapore from the last ten years.
    Did not help them squat on the 27th.

    The same way, with the right leadership and training; Indian Rafale pilots can mow through the PAF.

    It depends on the leadership, training and the psyche of the pilots in the air that day.
     
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    It's not only that f-16 has become a average market product available to global nation's anyone can get their hands on it.
    The mindsets are totally on opposite scales between Pakistani pilots versus Indians.
    It's like Indians are plug & play devices on Microsoft hardware not programming pilots so to speak as an example of professionals. There is lack of skills gap for Indians. And it shows vividly.
     
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    Why does S/pore has no pilots of her own?
     
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    I think Pakistan needs a dual engine power performer badly right at this moment.
    We have to have 2 squadron of dual engine jets in PAF.
    I know they are expensive to run and maintain, but it is necessary evil.
    We have JF 17 and F 16 both performing on single engine. Thus whatever savings to be made on maintenance on majority of the fleet is already achieved.
    We seriously need to match the power and thrust vectoring of some of the Indian's jets.
    I know skills and all other relative but sometime the raw power also count.
     
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    What are those dual engines??
     
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    Joint training Bro. Not deputation.
     
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    Singapore has their own pilots. indian air force pilot just got training on Singapore F 16 to become familiar what PAF can do against them....but 27 feb shows that indians got zero knowledge about fighting Falcons.
     
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    Plenty of choices. It is a shame that technology would be a factor in the choice, but if it is just come to raw power, I think F 15 still are monsters. That's my personal preference. But I know it wouldn't be viable for futuristic requirements of PAF, therefore, they have to select carefully. Without a shadow of a doubt they need it.
    Why you think Modi is waiting for Rafale!!!
     
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    Which one?
     
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    3 Sqdns min.

    2 dedicated for the Navy.

    Thrust vectoring - practically useless in modern day combat.
     
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    My wish is on power and speed rather than thrust vectoring. And on weapons off course.
     
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    only have 2 options either we can go J-16/J-11 series from China or Mig-35 from Russia and forget about Su-35/EF-2000 or any dual engine jet from USA
    And TVC is useless in modern combat where AAMs bot (SRAAM/BVR) have agility/maneuverability for more than 50 Gs for Short range air to air missiles and for Beyond visual range missiles is more than 25 Gs, where you TVC equipped fighter jets had maneuverability/agility of 10/11 Gs at max @crankthatskunk
    only have 2 options either we can go J-16/J-11 series from China or Mig-35 from Russia and forget about Su-35/EF-2000 or any dual engine jet from USA @Syed Hammad Ahmed
     
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    This whole "Rai Ka Pahar" saga was made to convince cow mata for order of f21. It is tactics made by uncle sam that PAF not only uses f16 but they are now advanced on rafale before you indians. And regularly asking india for order and also insuring them they never sell f21 if you put order of 100+ f21's
     
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    TVC could come handy in situation like we have on 26th and 27th. I am only concern to cover that eventuality.
    Otherwise, as much as weapons are concerned a single engine can do the job , if it is capable of carrying most what PAF has.