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Pulwama - From Bluster to a Whimper

Discussion in 'Pakistan Air Force' started by Windjammer, Jun 2, 2019.

  1. PradoTLC

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    yup they are deluded to new hieghts
     
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    What i can say is that whatever PAF wanted out in public they would have announced through ISPR, having said that the SU-30 claim was intentionally leaked informally. Whatever information which you have provided may inadvertently help the enemy assess their weaknesses and avoid the mistakes in the next encounter. It is just my two cents.
     
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  3. Oscar

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    Not retired yet - enjoying being at the tip of organizational transformation in IoT space.
     
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    Ah, you are not the lucky one then.
    I would be joining two hydel power prj shortly - perhaps late this year or best early next.

     
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    Everyone forgets the tactics that the IAF used against the Americans during Cope India. They used the MIG21 with the SU30. Probably thought they could pull off something similar.
     
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    Its dumb of them to try those tactics when they were discussed on forums for decade.
     
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    They were spanked pretty strong and hard for their silly mistake. No wonder they are concocting phone delusions of downing an F-16
     
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    Thank you ACM sb and Alan for putting a big smile on my face :)
     
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    Sir Kaiser Tufail was kind enough to share further details of the operation.

    Leading from the front.

    "It would also be instructive to know that the PAF’s air battle commander for the operation was the AOC of Central Air Command, Air Vice Marshal Irfan Ahmad. On 27 February, his operations room was the cockpit of an F-16 which he was flying during the air battle over the LOC. If any doubts still persist about what leading from the front means, the IAF would do well to undertake a reading of this latest chapter of PAF’s combat history."

    ''As per radio monitoring, the Su-30 had earlier failed to synchronise its data link with the Su-30 that had been targeted, and both aircraft had been unable to provide any mutual support by way of radar data sharing."

    "Two pairs of fighters escorted the strike package, while four sections of 4-ship fighters each, patrolled along the LOC. The F-16s were configured with 4xAIM-120C and 2xAIM-9M missiles, while the JF-17s were configured with 2xSD-10 and 2xPL-5 missiles."

    @Oscar @Hodor @Knuckles @Taimoor Khan @Irfan Baloch @The Eagle @HRK
     
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    Source Link if any???
     
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    What does it says in the headings.
     
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    Kindly request him to put it in some post or article so that the world knows that PAF is the best of professionals
     
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    He has his own Blog site.
     
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    As the chatter has it all the way how Sir KT & others are dropping like one after another, on IAF heads. I am really surprised that many cross the border aren't asking real questions or they are helpless though IAF does manage to manipulate them through propaganda while kept them at bay from the facts. The surprise element of IAF's RT with PAF, is like a ticking bomb and there is lot to hear about helplessness in Indian formation on that day.
     
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    Yar pehle khud decide karlo ke F16 ne dono ko giraye the ya JF17 ne phir humko batana