• Monday, October 14, 2019

PTM terrorists opened fire on security personnel in North Waziristan

Discussion in 'Pakistan's Internal Security' started by RangeMaster, May 26, 2019.

  1. Syed Hammad Ahmed

    Syed Hammad Ahmed FULL MEMBER

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    Nyc joke dude. U mean under Musharraf's rule?
     
  2. pkuser2k12

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  3. PakSword

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    In case of TLP, government managed the crisis very well, both on media and legally. Mostly, police was used to contain and arrest the perpetrators. Also, TLP didn't have much support.

    In case of PTM, I want to hear strong statements coming from government officials. They need to build a narrative.. This is how information wars are won. If government comes forward and calls PTM terrorists, and strongly condemn terrorist sympathizers, common public on social media will start a campaign against the supporters of terrorists.

    Right now, people are in limbo.. The leader is quite, while other leaders have got the time to build anti-army narrative, which may haunt us all in the near future.
     
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  4. ali_raza

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    prm is old wine in new bottle
    now this is soo complicated
    in zardari time terror was on peak.
    we had civilian government support them from background to divert powers attention away from there loot. media was a active tool.
    soo much soo that media persona knew about blast before they even happen.
    then there was mqm urban mass terror cells created hevoc in karachi effectively rendered our economy useless.
    another aspect was global since zardari was shia and he was a snake this effectively cuts us off from our best allies in gulf they were worried but couldn’t do anything cos head was rotten.
    slowly slowly we conquered back our land
    reclaim karachi
    raheel sharif was one of real heroes
    now coming back
    nawaz had a different policy which had its heart in punjab
    now punjabis cos they can never tolerate anti army narrative nawaz had to take a different approach but still he was sold out too.
    dawn leaks and stuff.
    but the thing is we r in final hours now
    army has done its bit
    its now duty of IK to kill soft terror
    kill the narrative they have the muscle to do tht.
    but nawaz zardari inclinations are meaningful
    its either we go all in
    arrest 5000 people together which will will open up alote of cans with worms but would clear up alote of things
    another way is go surgery mode slowly slowly keep killing the enemy
    all we need is give these people bloody noses in logic and narrative
    its duty of every patriot to defend our mother land
    we all r soldiers now
     
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    This is what required..

    Modi has built a narrative in India.. Anyone who says anything against Army is labelled a terrorist sympathizer. Anyone, whether in media or in political circles, who tries to portray Muslims or Pakistan in a better way, is labelled a terrorist sympathizer.

    That's an extremist society, but ours is a lame society.. We can't call terrorists and their sympathizers terrorists because here terrorist sympathizers openly start cursing us, media bashing starts and people start wondering that maybe the other side (terrorists) is correct. There is no narrative building. Today, people are talking about electricity transmission, recovery and line losses, while the nation needs strong worded statement from the leader who has been given a simple majority by the people of Pakistan.. Everyone is looking towards government..

    I need Imran Khan to come forward, address the nation, expose PTM with proofs, declare PTM anti Pakistan and ask PTM supporters and sympathizers to stop their support for the terrorists, and requests the nation to keep an eye on the terrorists and their supports in all walks of life.. we will see people (whether in Media or politicians) will think 10 times before extending support to PTM.

    People tell lies 100 times to make it true.. Here we are hesitating in telling the truth for once..
     
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  6. Peaceful Civilian

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    Maryam nawaz has no shame. Where was she during model town lahore operation. 100+ citizens received bullets and 14 died from direct firing under punjab government.
     
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    Sahi hai, tum keyboard warrior suchay meray waldain jhuotay
     
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    Preach.

    Remind me what's the punishment for treason?

    Shut down the country and start a purge, something's need to be messy.

    It's taking way too long
     
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    Why would a MNA attack army openely when he can do it by sitting at home?
     
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    Because his foreign handlers told him to.

    One by one all are getting activated.
     
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    How hard can a guy with a mop on his head, to be found

    Because its ttp, rebranded
     
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    Things got out of hand
     
  13. WarKa DaNG

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    Even a child can understand that by taking that step means exposing myself and jeopardizing the whole operation but why take the risk

    So?
     
  14. ali_raza

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    policy makers r not ready for that
    guess they r too afraid want to always keep testing water
    i think we should announce economic emergency
    which should include terror financing and money laundering
    this would also shut up fatf and west as terror is there favorite scapegoat
    we just beat them in there own game
     
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    I partially agree with you

    but remember we already had multiple dictatorship everything works fine our country prosper but when their era end everything starts to fall their era only works in short term we need a long term plan

    idiot like these is some what a blessing they have done what army fails to do till now they completely exposed themselves maryam and bilawal in their support likely to degrade their remaining reputation completely exposing them what they really are, we criticize govt for being incompetent (its a separate debate) but atleast they are not anti pakistan

    decision are made by the nation not by the army or govt

    if we still fails to recognize our enemy we will fail as a nation