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Falcon26

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but Americans know we gave F16 for J10 project so yes in a way
What are you talking about?It’s a well established fact China had access to the Israeli Lavi project which was a copy of the F-16. Pakistan had zero involvement with the J-10. Please stop peddling unsubstantiated and false claims.

Why China Looked To Israel's Lavi Jet For Its J-10 'Vigorous Dragon'


However, in the mid-1990s, U.S. newspapers began reporting that intelligence agencies were concerned about continued Israeli technology transfers to China—including some components given to Israel by the United States.

This included allegations that Israel had transferred Lavi technology for China’s program to develop a fourth-generation jet fighter. The Chengdu Aircraft Corporation had begun work on the J-10 in 1988 under engineer Song Wecong, who can be seen next to a Lavi in thisphoto (fourth from the right).


In his book Lavi: the United States, Israel and a Controversial Fighter, John W. Golan wrote:

Israeli involvement in the J-10 appears to have begun at around the same time that China first opened diplomatic relations with Israel in January 1992 . . . Israeli contractors were engaged to provide the aerodynamic and structural outlines for the J-10. The Israeli influences on the J-10’s design are unmistakable: a close-coupled, canard-delta arrangement; a single-engine fighter featuring a ventral engine inlet; twin ventral strakes; and an area-ruled fuselage.
 

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Chief Project Director of the JF-17 Thunder program Air Marshall (Retd) Shahid Latif, revealed this in an interview by Abid Andleeb that he was warned numerous times by the US Ambassador in Pakistan not to pass F-16 technology onto China (for the JF-17 Thunder program). In his response, AM Latif says, he told the ambassador, "You can lock everything but you cannot lock my brainware (knowledge of software/avionics of the F-16s)."

Watch from 1:20 onwards.

This is why the US will not allow American Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft technology, designs and avionics to be used with the Project Azm. They will probably do their best to sabotage the program.
Former Pakistani officials can get quite creative in their thinking, that’s all I will say.
 

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I do wonder people when try to become so big but didnt know any thing at all .US CIA reports that an F16B (back in late 1990`s when we were under heavy sanctions) was delivered to Chinese to study .That was the biggest bone of contention between US and Pakistan over sales of newer F16 and thats why US asked for certain presence of personnel to safe guard blk 52 .This is well known to every one pre 2000 sort of our national secrets .Israeli`s on US pressure abandon the LAVI and passed on certain technologies which in late 1990`s was also stopped .China uses that F16B as at that time from fleet of 40+ we have operational 32 roughly desperate times calls for desperate decisions. For your information PAF did bought lot of spares through intermediaries from Israel as well .News for you
Provide sources or keep your wild fantasies to yourself. There has never been any credible allegation against Pakistan for sharing F-16 information with China, let alone “transferring” an entire F-16 to them. It’s astonishing the sorts of ridiculous and deranged assertions people make on this forum.
 

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Baat sirif itni c hey k sab tukay laga rahay hey. Almost no one in this thread has first hand info of what capabilities we have gained. A few people who has info they simply said its confidential. So this thread is actually more like a wishful thinking and I believe basis for discussion is not solid enough to talk much on this topic.
These 500+ wonderful neigbours of our are constantly stalking for such classified info.
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I had a dream last night that a friend of mine sent me pictures of Azm's FGFA demonstrator first test flight lol. It had the basic planform of the YF-23 but wasn't the YF-23.

Haqeeqat TV: Pakistani Naujawan ko khwab main Azm nazar agaya! kya Pakistan nay Azm bana liya hai?
 

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