Featured Project Azm: Pakistan's Ambitious Quest to Develop 5th Generation Military Technologies.

[jupiter2007]

The JF17 programme has reached full maturity and from now on, there will be only manufacturing and upgrades of planes and integration of new weapons to the platform. The design for Block III has been locked down, and there has not been any word of subsequent blocks.

No PAF official has mentioned or spoken about a Block IV for the JF17. The offial PAF narrative stops at Block III. PAF is moving onto Azm, what ever that means and it will be the core focus of their resources for the next decade.

JF-17 will require another upgrade in 5 to 7 years just like upgrade from block2 to block3.
Once we are done with the production of 50 block 3, we will move to block 4 production.

 

[Desert Fox 1]

JF-17 will require another upgrade in 5 to 7 years just like upgrade from block2 to block3.
Once we are done with the production of 50 block 3, we will move to block 4 production.

Blk 4 after just 7 years

 

[GriffinsRule]

AZM using the Eurojet EJ200 engines would be amazing. Wonder if we have entertained that option at all

 

[Syntage]

AZM using the Eurojet EJ200 engines would be amazing. Wonder if we have entertained that option at all

I don't think we have clearance for EJ-200.Reason being China factor.

 

[GriffinsRule]

I don't think we have clearance for EJ-200.Reason being China factor.

What does that have to do with the Chinese? If we have cash, we can buy the Eurofighter tomorrow so I dont see an issue with engines alone for a new gen fighter. We just need to lobby for it

 

[Mrc]

What does that have to do with the Chinese? If we have cash, we can buy the Eurofighter tomorrow so I dont see an issue with engines alone for a new gen fighter. We just need to lobby for it

 

[MIRauf]

What does that have to do with the Chinese? If we have cash, we can buy the Eurofighter tomorrow so I dont see an issue with engines alone for a new gen fighter. We just need to lobby for it

What happens if a US Company GE / Prat or some other buys equity into RR ? will that give US Gov't the rightful option to place sanctions etc ? VERA radar rings bell ?

 

[MastanKhan]

What does that have to do with the Chinese? If we have cash, we can buy the Eurofighter tomorrow so I dont see an issue with engines alone for a new gen fighter. We just need to lobby for it

Sir,

Respectfully---please get off your mantyra of " IF WE HAVE CASH ".

Gen Musharraf made it clear that we had cash and still no one would sell us---. This statement of his is on the public domain.

What happens if a US Company GE / Prat or some other buys equity into RR ? will that give US Gov't the rightful option to place sanctions etc ? VERA radar rings bell ?

Hi,

Thank you for your comments---. I do not understand why it is so difficult to understand.

 

[Imran Khan]

JF-17 will require another upgrade in 5 to 7 years just like upgrade from block2 to block3.
Once we are done with the production of 50 block 3, we will move to block 4 production.

i dont see any block 4 jf-17 is not f-16 sir

 

[Syntage]

I don't think we can get EJ for Thunders even if we manage to gather funds.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

I don't think we have clearance for EJ-200.Reason being China factor.

China does not have a lot of problem with Europe. But the problem will be potential sanctions from America.

 

[GriffinsRule]

What happens if a US Company GE / Prat or some other buys equity into RR ? will that give US Gov't the rightful option to place sanctions etc ? VERA radar rings bell ?

You are worried about that when all our F-16s have been flying the US engines as well as countless other platforms? I would be more worried about Russian sanctioning parts down the road instead. Here you want already have the entire JF-17 fleet with Russian engines and now some of you are proposing we put all our eggs in the same basket again. Imagine the leverage that gives them over PAF.
That would be unforgiveable. I rather not worry about US buying RR or whatever. The Brits have their own assets/tech to safeguard vs the Americans. Pakistan needs to diversify away from Russian engines for its own sake and if Chinese are not there yet and Americans are unwilling, then we need a European options.

Sir,

Respectfully---please get off your high horse of " IF WE HAVE CASH ".

Gen Musharraf made it clear that we had cash and still no one would sell us---. This statement of his is on the public domain.


Hi,

Thank you for your comments---. I do not understand why it is so difficult to understand.

Nothing stays static in the domain of international politics and deal making. Musharaf was a dictator ... times have changed in Pakistan since then with consecutive "democratic" governments. Pakistan will need to play the game to its benefit

 

[jupiter2007]

i dont see any block 4 jf-17 is not f-16 sir

Air Marshal(R) Shahid Latif's mentioned in an interview that we might see block 4 and if needed block 5.

 

[Imran Khan]

Air Marshal(R) Shahid Latif's mentioned in an interview that we might see block 4 and if needed block 5.

really ? wow its means thunders are here next 40 years

 

[jupiter2007]

really ? wow its means thunders are here next 40 years

Current inventory is close to this....

49 JF-17A Block 1
60 JF-17A Block 2
26 JF-17B Block 2
50 JF-17A Block 3 on order
After block 3, PAF will order 50 Block 4.