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PanzerKiel

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the standard side arm in army these days is Sarsilmaz B6, correct me if I am wrong please and it was made by POF...Did the PA ever use Glocks? as Musharraf wrote in his book that Glock-17 was his favorite...
Yes standard sidearm is B6....other sidearms are a choice, like Glock, you can buy and use it.
 

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Not when you've to command a few trigger happy youngsters, bro
Our rookies get blue guns in the academy, trigger discipline is drilled into them. Then they practice scenarios with simunitions. After graduation they go to their respective departments and go through inhouse training, where they pass departmental and state qualifications and are issued a firearm. We've had one accidental discharge in last 15 years and it was user error.
 

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It was Feb 2012. I was a bit young at that time.

Early morning, we received a volley of 106 mm rockets fired by TTP. Dust clouds from the launch location were visible from our location so we decided to reach there ASP and hit some TTP stragglers.

That location was a good 6 kms away, for that, we had to climb down our mountain, move into a stony nullah bed and then climb another mountain. I along with a platoon strength took off. Meanwhile artillery fire had also been called in from two artillery batteries (12 guns) which were pounding the probable routes of withdrawal of TTP guys.

Along the way i got a report of a probable sighting of TTP guys running away and i decided to take a small component of my team in their pursuit. I soon found their footsteps and kept on running after them.

Now the icing....
I decided to kept my pursuit going even though i knew that i was going to run into my own artillery's 105 mm shells. Being a bit careless and motivated.....jawaani bhi kia cheez hoti hai......i decided to take the plunge.

It was a harrowing experience.....shells in valleys and confined spaces echo more and your eardrums and brain gets rattled.....unluckily, my exploit did not fetch me any results, and i had to stop because it was almost last light, and i was accompanied by only one of my soldiers....we two in no man's land.

So we returned, tired.....

It was my first outing like this.....first in a series of many over a period of almost 3 years.
 

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The fear of offence/aggression keeps most people peaceful, that's exactly why the police service got started.
Better to have fear of the law rather than fear of the police for a fair society where due process works. In the context of this thread, better to have the professionals trained and equipped for defending the homeland rather than "other" roles.
 

Joe Shearer

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It was Feb 2012. I was a bit young at that time.

Early morning, we received a volley of 106 mm rockets fired by TTP. Dust clouds from the launch location were visible from our location so we decided to reach there ASP and hit some TTP stragglers.

That location was a good 6 kms away, for that, we had to climb down our mountain, move into a stony nullah bed and then climb another mountain. I along with a platoon strength took off. Meanwhile artillery fire had also been called in from two artillery batteries (12 guns) which were pounding the probable routes of withdrawal of TTP guys.

Along the way i got a report of a probable sighting of TTP guys running away and i decided to take a small component of my team in their pursuit. I soon found their footsteps and kept on running after them.

Now the icing....
I decided to kept my pursuit going even though i knew that i was going to run into my own artillery's 105 mm shells. Being a bit careless and motivated.....jawaani bhi kia cheez hoti hai......i decided to take the plunge.

It was a harrowing experience.....shells in valleys and confined spaces echo more and your eardrums and brain gets rattled.....unluckily, my exploit did not fetch me any results, and i had to stop because it was almost last light, and i was accompanied by only one of my soldiers....we two in no man's land.

So we returned, tired.....

It was my first outing like this.....first in a series of many over a period of almost 3 years.
I can only shake my head in disbelief (well, also feel relieved). Were there any older officers witnessing this?
 

Joe Shearer

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At what point does such "motivation" become subject to discipline?
You can't hold back a thirty-something year old at moments of 'josh' like this. You can try, but it's wasted breath, and unnecessary BP. Better to sit back quietly and contemplate nature.

Nopes, they were about 4-5 kms back, in wireless contact, thats all.
A good thing, Sir, I assure you, a very good thing!
 

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