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Population Time Bomb: Can it be avoided?

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Recently, a policy debate workshop was organized on population by a policy institute where my recommendations were not incorporated in the final draft. Hence, we sought to write about it independently to alert the world about the population time bomb in the South Asian region. While it is challenging to surmount this problem, it is certainly possible.

We compared Bangladesh and Pakistan’s growth rates, 1 percent and 2.9 percent, respectively, to see the effectiveness of population control policies. But before venturing into the policy matters, are there any measures as to what may be a good population size that can adequately hang in the balance?

The dictionary definition of a ‘balanced population’ is “Natural population in a particular land area or body of water that maintains itself year after year with a little fluctuation in the number of individuals despite regular fishing and hunting.” In the light of this, how have several ecological communities fared? The human population has exponentially grown to a point where the biophysical limits of the globe are threatened.

Perhaps animals deserve this planet more than we do because they are disappearing at the expense of us humans. Animals dwell within nature, but humans have increasingly dwelt outside of nature. This notion directly opposes the modernism-inspired knowledge, which insists that there is no such thing as nature; rather, a mechanical universe is composed of dead matter, which can be dominated at will and used to our advantage. There is nothing sacred about nature intrinsically. The former view looks at nature as a wife from which one benefits and towards whom one has responsibility. The latter view looks at the world of nature as a prostitute, from which one benefits but has no responsibility. This means that the spirituality of nature must be respected to coexist with nature rather than dominating nature irresponsibly.

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No, It's the single biggest crisis our country faces. In 30 years time we will have 50% more people. For every 2 people in Pakistan today, there will be 3.

Where is the extra food, where is the extra water, where are the extra jobs, the extra homes, the extra schools, colleges, universities, hospitals?!

It is not unsunstainable, but it is if the next 30 years go like the last 30 years.

Also we need a 2 child policy for 50 years. If the growth rate continues what happens when 300m turn into 500m? We'll be walking around in our own sh!t like them across the border.
 

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No, It's the single biggest crisis our country faces. In 30 years time we will have 50% more people. For every 2 people in Pakistan today, there will be 3.

Where is the extra food, where is the extra water, where are the extra jobs, the extra homes, the extra schools, colleges, universities, hospitals?!

It is not unsunstainable, but it is if the next 30 years go like the last 30 years.

Also we need a 2 child policy for 50 years. If the growth rate continues what happens when 300m turn into 500m? We'll be walking around in our own sh!t like them across the border.
Contraception is haraam, don't you know?
 

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Its too late. Its sad to see the children growing up today may face a terrible future.
When there is one bread in a room full of hungry people then no one cares who is family, friends or what religion they have. They will just tear each other apart to fill their hunger. This is where Pakistan is headed to.
 

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Two options

1. Plan new cities, manage resources properly, stop looting Pakistan, improve and evenly distribute the population through out the country.

2. Forced contraception in major urban population centers.
 

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Recently, a policy debate workshop was organized on population by a policy institute where my recommendations were not incorporated in the final draft. Hence, we sought to write about it independently to alert the world about the population time bomb in the South Asian region. While it is challenging to surmount this problem, it is certainly possible.

We compared Bangladesh and Pakistan’s growth rates, 1 percent and 2.9 percent, respectively, to see the effectiveness of population control policies. But before venturing into the policy matters, are there any measures as to what may be a good population size that can adequately hang in the balance?

The dictionary definition of a ‘balanced population’ is “Natural population in a particular land area or body of water that maintains itself year after year with a little fluctuation in the number of individuals despite regular fishing and hunting.” In the light of this, how have several ecological communities fared? The human population has exponentially grown to a point where the biophysical limits of the globe are threatened.

Perhaps animals deserve this planet more than we do because they are disappearing at the expense of us humans. Animals dwell within nature, but humans have increasingly dwelt outside of nature. This notion directly opposes the modernism-inspired knowledge, which insists that there is no such thing as nature; rather, a mechanical universe is composed of dead matter, which can be dominated at will and used to our advantage. There is nothing sacred about nature intrinsically. The former view looks at nature as a wife from which one benefits and towards whom one has responsibility. The latter view looks at the world of nature as a prostitute, from which one benefits but has no responsibility. This means that the spirituality of nature must be respected to coexist with nature rather than dominating nature irresponsibly.

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Population growth of Pakistan is not 2.9%,
it is 2.2%, although I've also read it could be 2.4%.

By saying it is 2.9%, he is making a false statement right from the start, in what should be a serious and an honest discussion, I cannot take this article seriously, if he is unable to write with honesty.

The otherwise explanation is that he is ill-informed or lying, then that is even worse.


But, I do agree we need to bring our population under control, but without using drastic measures. We cannot do that by having such lazy discussions by being lazy with facts.
 

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Two options

1. Plan new cities, manage resources properly, stop looting Pakistan, improve and evenly distribute the population through out the country.

2. Forced contraception in major urban population centers.
Why just major urban population centres?
Surely it has to be the same everywhere or it just won't work.

Tayri toi may bohat keera hy kya? Abay salay gund say bhary gutter k dhakan tum kaun sa bohat awal dunia ki makhlooq ho? Tum tou hum say b 10 gunah badtar ho choohay khanay walay haramkhor.
I laughed more than I should have at this.
 

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Population growth of Pakistan is not 2.9%,
it is 2.2%, although I've also read it could be 2.4%.

Actually it's 2.02 ( or 2.04 something). We are continuously seeing decrease in population growth with each year.

According to World Bank it's 1.98.

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Tayri toi may bohat keera hy kya? Abay salay gund say bhary gutter k dhakan tum kaun sa bohat awal dunia ki makhlooq ho? Tum tou hum say b 10 gunah badtar ho choohay khanay walay haramkhor.
Indian population growth rate on the other hand is 0.98 last year as compare to Pakistan's 2.02 (1.98 according to World Bank).
 

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Actually it's 2.02 ( or 2.04 something). We are continuously seeing decrease in population growth with each year.

According to World Bank it's 1.98.

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I tend to trust estimates by international organisation regarding Pakistan with some care.

They constantly get it wrong, because Pakistan does not have an organised fact collections culture so lot of it is just guess work. But I suppose you have to trust them to a certain degree.

Read the stupendously idiotic estimate by PEW regarding Pakistan's population, it misjudges so much it must have been written by an idiot.
 

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Why just major urban population centres?
Surely it has to be the same everywhere or it just won't work

Unplanned villages and towns is a headache for Pakistan. Pakistan instead need to come up with standardised towns comprising 30 sq.km each ( 6 km X 5 km) while having 150,000 population with a population density of 5000 atleast. This way we avoid creation of more unplanned villages and town which reduces our future headaches, it also concentrates relatively larger population in a small areas, as well as this can finally bring the apartment culture to Pakistan on a large scale. This also improve availability of public space and parks in towns which currently is non existent in our towns. We can easily multiply these town in different locations. Like take example of KSA new city " The line). Now imagine you have these towns (, 10 km apart) on Gawadar to Karachi route . Thats almost 40 town containing 6 million population. This can also prove vital in increasing ( more like shifting demographics) of Baluchistan by shifting more population towards Baluchistan ( 5-10 millions atleast from highly populated zones of other parts of Pakistan. ).
 

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Why just major urban population centres?
Surely it has to be the same everywhere or it just won't work.

Our main problem is not having enough cities to evenly spread the population and have less per sqkm. Our few big urban centers have population more than they can sustain, Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad, Peshawar and even small cities as well.

People living in rural areas still have enough land to not make it look congested ugly place.
 

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I tend to trust estimates by international organisation regarding Pakistan with some care.

They constantly get it wrong, because Pakistan does not have an organised fact collections culture so lot of it is just guess work. But I suppose you have to trust them to a certain degree.

Read the stupendously idiotic estimate by PEW regarding Pakistan's population, it misjudges so much it must have been written by an idiot.

Well different ( relatively reliable one like WB etc) sources quote different figures that range between 1.98 and 2.02. so if all are quoting this range i think we can consider the upper side to be true.
 

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Indian population growth rate on the other hand is 0.98 last year as compare to Pakistan's 2.02 (1.98 according to World Bank).

They are over a billion plus with serious gender disparity. It is not them but their desire for sons with little nunniz that is keeping the nos. low for the time being.

They have same issue ........ few cities with huge population (compared to their total area).
 

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