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PML-N’s ‘interesting’ rule: Have the 2018 elections already been lost?

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    PML-N’s ‘interesting’ rule: Have the 2018 elections already been lost?
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    Shaukat Qadir |

    In the Chinese language, if you say, “May you live in interesting times”; it’s a curse. Pakistan seems to have spent its life in ‘interesting times’. The uncertainty has been more or less, never absent. Except perhaps in the period of Ayub Khan’s first five years.

    I am beginning to wonder if this is a competitive fact. Are our various political parties trying to outdo each other in surviving interesting times? The last PPP era outshone any other in the successful loot of the national treasury. But, while those five years also witnessed self-created political turmoil, it seems that the PML-N government is determined to outshine any other in self-created political turmoil. And that, in the run-up to the elections.

    There is little doubt that the army has been the principal state institution responsible for nurturing political uncertainty.

    After Musharraf, with the army leaning over backward to try reassuring the elected government of its support for a democratic rule, one would have thought times would change. But that was not to be.

    Read more: Pakistan in the last decade: Democracy, Corruption, or Development?

    There is little doubt that the army has been the principal state institution responsible for nurturing political uncertainty. But perhaps, in recent years, the burden of this uncertainty has steadily shifted to the shoulders of elected rulers.

    Not only are they squandering the pitifully few resources of this wretched country on personal luxuries, a fact borne out by this year’s supplementary budget, but they also seem least concerned about their governance responsibilities.

    The principal threat to the nation today is from terrorists and whatever is to be done in that regard, is left to the military. NAP is somnolent; NACTA drugged, and whenever questions arise, one or the other minister delivers a fiery speech lauding governmental efforts, even if these efforts are conspicuous by their absence.

    The principal threat to the nation is from terrorists, and whatever is to be done in that regard has been left to the military.

    Considering that the Panama Leaks case has reached a threatening stage, the government should have been busy trying to prove its credentials for the next elections and ensure popular support by its actions. But in presenting the Jhadav case before the ICJ, the government again succeeded in finding the most incompetent person to represent Pakistan.

    It is almost impossible to fathom how any respectable lawyer, conscious of his reputation, could act in a manner that reflects so seriously on his legal competence? He couldn’t be; since he has earlier represented India in another case. So why this sudden ineptitude?

    Read more: Free and fair elections: Can democracy in Pakistan be resurrected?

    Occurring in the wake of the mysterious secret visit by Jindal and his meeting with the PM, the incident was bound to give rise to rumors of conspiracies at the highest levels. Among these rumors, one is particularly disconcerting; that on hearing the military’s objections to the performance of the government’s hand-picked lawyer, the military was told to hire and pay for its own lawyer in the Jhadav case.

    For a case of such national importance? If this is true, it’s unbelievably amazing. Civil-military relations are also a two-way street. Why should the elected government make deliberate efforts to sour them? And, such a comment could have no other purpose but to deliberately sour them.

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    Yes uncertainty is there but probably for the greater good ... for cure of cancer you have to go extensive chemotherapy and Pakistan is trying to do it ...

    Alot at stake and we have to set fundamental rights if this can cause few years of uncertainity and slow growth then its worth trying ...
     
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    i am finally convinced that Democracy is not the ideal system for pakistan because it was designed for those societies where people know the power of their votes and in those societies it produced good results but in a country like pakistan we are watching the same politicians in power again and again... and in next election you will see them once more in action the only difference would be the change of party names... at election day they will provide free transportation and free plate of biryani to poor people and that is how they will cost their vote. educated class mostly consider election day as a holiday and they will keep sleeping at their homes considering elections a waste of time.
     
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    Spot on!

    Current system in Pakistan is Voted Kingdom or Voted Oligarchy and it should not be sold as packaged democracy, however to be politically correct for awaam and to create a smoke screen for the entire world it is termed as Jamhooriyat (Democracy) even though every fundamental ingredient of true democracy is missing (by design) from it.
     
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    Democracy is not meant for countries like Pakistan where every other 'educated illiterate' gets up and start debating about who should be in power and who should not. Every single person in this country is a politician these days in his own. Ask any one from the street and they ll give you an entire lecture on whose corrupt, whose momin, whose rich and how he made that money. Sadly the people of our country form their opinions on hear say. Whatever they hear on the media and from random people they tend to believe, as long as it is to their liking without giving a damn about the credibility. I'd say our citizens need to learn the definition of credibility to begin with.

    Every five years they themselves elect a party to run the country and after a year they start bashing that party. PMLQ, PPP, PMLN and I have a strong feeling that if by a stroke of luck PTI does manage to form the federal government, their fate will be no different. PML's vote bank comes from villages and rural areas where PTI would be unable to make significant inroads due to lack of education, PTI's vote is concentrated in cities. Even though the most popular party in the country at the moment seems to be that of Imran Khan, unfortunately its unlikely that it will be able to win enough seats to form a national government. the problem is not with the politicians but with our people as a whole. The traits we see in these politicians reflect the traits of the majority of the people. After all the leaders come from and are elected by the very same society. It sad to see the defence minister of our country using such cheap language for his fellow parliamentarians but sadly this is the standard of our politicians these days. One day I see PTI members calling names to PML people in Jalsas, the next day say I see PMLN members passing even worse comments. Im afraid this is what we deserve as the fabric of our society has deterioted over the past 30 years, although this is definitely not what our forefathers sacrificed their lives for. our country is filled with liars, cheats and frauds each looking out for his/her own petty interests and you don't have to go far to discover that. Just to local meat shop, vegetable shop or any shop for that matter, pretend to give a few extra bucks and see if he returns.

    Even though dictatorship might not be the best form of government but thats precisely what is needed at this point in time. A Strong military leader who is feared and respected by all and who is not willing to sell the country out like those in the past.
     
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    Cancer can't be treated with cancer causing drugs. Imran Khan and his party are bigger evils and they only want to replace a lesser evil.

    You've spoke the truth, brother. A bitter fact which most will not digest.

    Democracy is actually a door in Pakistan to filth and garbage. We have worst people who have money and take support from the West or some local power and they become our leaders. Look at Nawaz, a businessman, Zardari a thief and a feudal, Imran Khan, a playboy and a cricketer cum Zionist agent.
    Was Jinnah anything close to these traitors?
    Was Liaquat Ali Khan like them in any way?
    Ayub Khan, Zia, even Musharraf was way better than these clowns who call themselves political leaders.
     
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    My friend, Jinnah, Liaquat Ali Khan, Ayub Khan and to a lesser extent Zia as well as Musharraf were all statesmen. Unfortunately none of the leaders beating the drum these days are even close to that. All these political parties are misleading this country, some for money, some for power and some for both. But sadly even the most civilised of us today fail to comprehend this fact. I call the people of our country educated illiterates because even after acquiring education, they do not develop any sense of intellect instead they get so consumed by the ideas and fabricated facts that political parties throw at them that they start to hate every person who does not agree with them. PPP, PMLN, PTI, these are just names but their game is more or less the same. If you look at our history the only time our country got better was during the time of a military regime.
     
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    100% true. JazakAllah for speaking the truth. But you know our drugged masses that embrace everything their political leaders and private TV channels thrust to their brains, will not understand this.
    I'm watching their puppet show since Musharraf handed over power to them. It was Musharraf's bad luck that 9/11 happened during his period or else he would have developed Pakistan like Ayub Khan did.

    All of them are not sincere to Pakistan. Nawaz is a businessman who loves money first. Zardari is a chor, and Imran Khan is an agent of Jewish lobby that wants to control Pakistan's nuclear program through Mr Niazi.

    I think Pakistan's military establishment has to sit and ponder upon what type of democracy is suitable for Pakistan. You know foolish people are to be told what to do. They are not asked for what should be done. Our villagers who don't even know the Shahadah (first Kalimah) have voting power to decide the fate of this country. What nonsense!
    I suggest that not every person should be able to caste their vote. The criteria for a candidate of the Parliament should be followed for voters also. Then everyone whether they are voters or candidates for elections must pass an exam to prove they are able to elect legislators or make legislation. Every monkey shouldn't be able to sit in the Parliament which actually is true for our Parliament under democracy. You see them on TV screens, they don't even look normal human beings. If these parliamentarians go to the West for employment, they won't even get the post of a 'Chaprasi'.
     
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    How much are you being paid for advertising NS ...

    It is not about IK ... he if evil or whatever if he is a criminal run a case and punish him ... so stop saying blaa blaa about IK as it is not about him ...

    Lets talk about NS ... businessman ... haahaha ... you must be getting quiet a handsome amount for this otherwise any person with only little sanity plus honour cannot say this ... he is a proven criminal ... hudabia paper mill case, model town murders and many more other issues ...

    For him PMship is also a business ... invest be bribery then mutiply your business by getting favours throuvh gov ...

    Kindly do remember for you and everyone else and even me ... we all have to go to grave ... so you can try to decieve people but what about judgement day ?
     
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    In Pakistan you can't prove corruption in courts, that's the reason why Nawaz, Zardari and Imran Khan are freely walking in Pakistan.
     
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    Then why the hell were you condemning IK and Zardari while calling NS just businessman ... he is in power in one or another form since last 30 years except musharaf ero... whereas on overall basis we have declined sharply except for roads and his business has seen unprecedent growth ...

    While his assets and investments outside Pakistan are increasing daily ...
     
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    Nawaz Sharif is a lesser dirt compared to Imran Khan and Zardari. Imran is a Jewish agent and Zardari is a qualified chor who has ruined Sindh and Karachi. Nawaz's party hasn't destroyed Punjab.