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Education isnt the problem here unless they are hiring high school drop outs!
Whatever the problems and finger-pointing, the results are what are important: zero cases of polio. And thus far, those results remain elusive.
 

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Whatever the problems and finger-pointing, the results are what are important: zero cases of polio. And thus far, those results remain elusive.
And hence, the question...What is the problem? Since NGO are running the projects?
 

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Whatever the problems and finger-pointing, the results are what are important: zero cases of polio. And thus far, those results remain elusive.
Problem is usa pushed polio a decade back and led to atleast 200 poilo workers dearh

really sad man close that damn border its sure from Afghanistan
Not an Afghan problem its a corruption problem health workers sit under a tree and discard everything and go home
 
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And hence, the question...What is the problem? Since NGO are running the projects?
Problem is usa pushed polio a decade back and led to atleast 200 poilo workers dearh


Not an Afghan problem its a corruption problem health workers sit under a tree and discard everything and go home

Blaming NGO or evil Uncle Sam will do nothing to hide the fact that public health is the responsibility of the Pakistani government and its people.

Polio is just of many disease endemic in Pakistan with oro-fecal transmission. As long as poor sanitation persists and people consume excreta contaminated food and water, the problems will remain.

Blaming others, or expecting others to solve such basic issues will remain dishonest.
 

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Blaming NGO or evil Uncle Sam will do nothing to hide the fact that public health is the responsibility of the Pakistani government and its people.
No one is blaming bt questioning!

Polio is just of many disease endemic in Pakistan with oro-fecal transmission. As long as poor sanitation persists and people consume excreta contaminated food and water, the problems will remain.
Fair enough
Blaming others, or expecting others to solve such basic issues will remain dishonest.
If countries are seeking help it is obvious they have tried but isnt working
 

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No one is blaming bt questioning!


Fair enough

If countries are seeking help it is obvious they have tried but isnt working
As I said above, it is the children who will continue to suffer life-long debilitating consequences. May be things will improve in the naya Pakistan?
 

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Blaming NGO or evil Uncle Sam will do nothing to hide the fact that public health is the responsibility of the Pakistani government and its people.

Polio is just of many disease endemic in Pakistan with oro-fecal transmission. As long as poor sanitation persists and people consume excreta contaminated food and water, the problems will remain.

Blaming others, or expecting others to solve such basic issues will remain dishonest.
So you think usa fake polio had nothing to do with resurgence of polio ....

Even western biased media says that..seems you are even more biased that biased usa media

This comes from doctor who has worked in immunization.
Sanitation has nothing to with polio immunization

Why do you think we still immunize in USA

Hep A still pretty common in USA due to sanitation issues but polio isnt
 

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umeedoun par duniyea qaim hai
Jee bilkul. However, it does nothing to actually eliminate polio from the region, which takes properly targeted effort.

So you think usa fake polio had nothing to do with resurgence of polio ....

Even western biased media says that..seems you are even more biased that biased usa media

This comes from doctor who has worked in immunization.
Sanitation has nothing to with polio immunization

Why do you think we still immunize in USA

Hep A still pretty common in USA due to sanitation issues but polio isnt
"USA fake polio" is an intentional fabrication, and you would know better were you not blinded by your agenda driven prejudice so popular on PDF these days, and sad for a doctor who has worked in immunization, as you claim. ALL the children were properly vaccinated by Dr Afridi - a fact that can be easily proven by testing for antibody titers. What he did do was take samples for DNA analysis, without even knowing what the testing was actually for, as a low level drone in the field.

Elimination of polio takes many forms, which you may like to refresh with particular note of the first point, showing the importance of sanitation, directly contradictory to your false statement "Sanitation has nothing to with polio immunization":

(Are you sure you want me to believe you have worked in immunization? As a doctor? Really? Did you miss the portion on community health? :D )

https://ecdc.europa.eu/en/poliomyelitis/prevention-and-control

Prevention and control measures for poliomyelitis


  • Provision of clean water, improved hygienic practices and sanitation are important for reducing the risk of transmission in endemic countries.
  • Immunisation is the cornerstone of polio eradication. Two types of vaccine are available: an inactivated poliovirus vaccine (IPV) and a live attenuated OPV.
    • Oral polio vaccine has been the vaccine used predominantly in the past in global campaigns and is still used in endemic areas. It has the advantages of inducing both humoral and intestinal immunity and of being cheap and easy to administer. The disadvantage is the small risk of vaccine associated paralytic poliomyelitis (VAPP), which occurs in about 4 out of every 1 000 000 vaccinated children and unvaccinated contacts.
    • Inactivated poliovirus vaccine is injected intramuscularly and does not carry any risk of VAPP. The disadvantage is that it does not confer intestinal immunity and is not effective for outbreak control. It is more expensive and requires better trained staff for deliverance.
  • European countries have gradually shifted from OPV to IPV over the last decades and today all EU Member States use IPV in their childhood immunisation programmes. National immunisation schedules and policies are available here . (For more recent updates, please refer to national vaccination websites.)
  • Sensitive surveillance for acute flaccid paralysis (AFP) cases or, alternatively, testing for virus in sewage water (which is routinely done in several EU countries) along with rapid case investigations and containment of outbreaks are essential for maintaining polio-free status in Europe.
  • For surveillance purposes, the WHO and the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) have approved clinical, laboratory and epidemiological criteria for defining poliomyelitis.
  • Mandatory surveillance of all cases of AFP (even non-polio) is a part of the WHO strategy to monitor the effectiveness of the reporting system. In Europe, 43 of the 53 WHO member countries are involved in active AFP surveillance and reporting.
  • Testing for WPV and VDPV in sewage water is a sensitive surveillance method for poliomyelitis risk.
 
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Jee bilkul. However, it does nothing to actually eliminate polio from the region, which takes properly targeted effort.



"USA fake polio" is an intentional fabrication, and you would know better were you not blinded by your agenda driven prejudice so popular on PDF these days, and sad for a doctor who has worked in immunization, as you claim. ALL the children were properly vaccinated by Dr Afridi - a fact that can be easily proven by testing for antibody titers. What he did do was take samples for DNA analysis, without even knowing what the testing was actually for, as a low level drone in the field.

Elimination of polio takes many forms, which you may like to refresh with particular note of the first point, showing the importance of sanitation, directly contradictory to your false statement "Sanitation has nothing to with polio immunization":

(Are you sure you want me to believe you have worked in immunization? As a doctor? Really? Did you miss the portion on community health? :D )

https://ecdc.europa.eu/en/poliomyelitis/prevention-and-control

Prevention and control measures for poliomyelitis


  • Provision of clean water, improved hygienic practices and sanitation are important for reducing the risk of transmission in endemic countries.
  • Immunisation is the cornerstone of polio eradication. Two types of vaccine are available: an inactivated poliovirus vaccine (IPV) and a live attenuated OPV.
    • Oral polio vaccine has been the vaccine used predominantly in the past in global campaigns and is still used in endemic areas. It has the advantages of inducing both humoral and intestinal immunity and of being cheap and easy to administer. The disadvantage is the small risk of vaccine associated paralytic poliomyelitis (VAPP), which occurs in about 4 out of every 1 000 000 vaccinated children and unvaccinated contacts.
    • Inactivated poliovirus vaccine is injected intramuscularly and does not carry any risk of VAPP. The disadvantage is that it does not confer intestinal immunity and is not effective for outbreak control. It is more expensive and requires better trained staff for deliverance.
  • European countries have gradually shifted from OPV to IPV over the last decades and today all EU Member States use IPV in their childhood immunisation programmes. National immunisation schedules and policies are available here . (For more recent updates, please refer to national vaccination websites.)
  • Sensitive surveillance for acute flaccid paralysis (AFP) cases or, alternatively, testing for virus in sewage water (which is routinely done in several EU countries) along with rapid case investigations and containment of outbreaks are essential for maintaining polio-free status in Europe.
  • For surveillance purposes, the WHO and the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) have approved clinical, laboratory and epidemiological criteria for defining poliomyelitis.
  • Mandatory surveillance of all cases of AFP (even non-polio) is a part of the WHO strategy to monitor the effectiveness of the reporting system. In Europe, 43 of the 53 WHO member countries are involved in active AFP surveillance and reporting.
  • Testing for WPV and VDPV in sewage water is a sensitive surveillance method for poliomyelitis risk.
WTH..
Are we discussing whether he immunized the children or not..NO NO
WE ARE DISCUSING HOW A IMMUNE HEALTH SECTOR WAS MADE A TARGET FOR MILITANTS۔۔۔FAMILIES STARTED TO REFUSE IMMUNIZATION AFTERWARDS AS WELL

Something as simple as this..! if you cant understand than who is biased...!?


Thank you for giving me health lesson Dr Google

Spending 10 years in health and holding master in public and research being an assistant profesor of medicine i will still say that sanitization has nothing to do with immunization

It has something to do with hep A /polio but nothing with immunization

No i am faking being in health setup ..happy
 

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Polio vacines funded by cia is major cause of polio in world even u.s is not polio free and recently polio case is reported we should stop living in foolsparadise and recognise that polio is a propaganda of west against us to defame Pakistan in world
 

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lookup why oral polio is used in Pakistan instead of injectable and why india has no polio you might get help from google

Polio vacines funded by cia is major cause of polio in world even u.s is not polio free and recently polio case is reported we should stop living in foolsparadise and recognise that polio is a propaganda of west against us to defame Pakistan in world
Recent cases of child paralysis is still a mistery in USA But its not polio
 

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lookup why oral polio is used in Pakistan instead of injectable and why india has no polio you might get help from google


Recent cases of child paralysis is still a mistery in USA But its not polio
Major cause of polio in Pakistan is afghan war and due to border with afghanistan we suffer directly from it than india .During war disease spread in reggion more easily so afghan refugees bring this virus here and responsibility is on u.s for this
 

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Major cause of polio in Pakistan is afghan war and due to border with afghanistan we suffer directly from it than india .During war disease spread in reggion more easily so afghan refugees bring this virus here and responsibility is on u.s for this
Surpassingly Afghanistan has fewer cases of poliomyelitis than Pakistan in 2015-16..things have changed now...probably related to high population centers issue with poor immunization ..

Back in 2012 we found afghan community is more likely to be immunized than even Pakistanis due to them being more receptive to the idea
 

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Surpassingly Afghanistan has fewer cases of poliomyelitis than Pakistan in 2015-16..things have changed now...probably related to high population centers issue with poor immunization ..

Back in 2012 we found afghan community is more likely to be immunized than even Pakistanis due to them being more receptive to the idea
It is not correct afghan population large number is unregistered and are militants so no one knows about them in Pakistan most people suffering from polpio are afghan refugees and people of tribal areas the analytics by westernn media are false and are part of media warfare agaiinst Pakistan
 

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