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What charity? Tax money will support this healthcare scheme. That's how it is supposed to work--taxes paid by the people put to use for welfare of people.
Tax is a charity we pay to Imran Khan, unless it's spending is not available to common man for auditing.

Not every country in the world had this system but health care is best in the world there.
Previously we had govt. hospitals and people would get free treatment without any card... what's the difference this time?

BTW, have you tried using this card?

Does all PTI activists have this card?

Why national ID card can't be used as health card?
 

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Do you expect, we stop evaluating Nazi before end of his term?

Tell me where is the sense in debating PMLN or accusing Saudis, as an argument to their own failures and corruption scandals.

When PMLN was busy building mega projects, Nazi promised the nation that he will uncover mega corruptions in all of PMLN projects.... it's natural to ask for delivery!
Instead nazi followers are attempting to steer us away from those promises, with new twists and trolls.

I'm in no position to know, but this health card system doesn't make much sense in given environment, i feel it's another one of mega bogus projects like benazir income support.
It's beggars belief to throw confidence behind a health scam after ruling governments general secretary is wanted for corruption charges.

The same government spokesman was head over heels at covid19 spread as he boasted that the country is young and old ones don't matter.
 

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Low level are those who start accusing people as patwari and PMLN, when they loose argument and only you have this license.
You asked a question about Punjab and I answered. What else is there for you to cry about. ? Just leave it already na. Even this shows you are not here to learn or know but to get a chance to prove how good your ameer ul momeneen tenure was. I need such loyal workers for my business too. But they shouldn't be jahil, just loyal.

I would not feel jealous, if current ruling clergy beat PMLN in performance ON GROUND
So you mean they should also start building project likes Orange line on foreign loans. Then pay interest on those loans as well as pay subsidy on those projects ? Only then will you say Ary Imran Jani to mery siyaasi Abu pe gye hy.

If development of Pakistan was any criteria, than PMLN beat all popular political parties hands down.
Yes it beat PTI govt on many criteria's. Be it foreign loans, creating a class of politicaly corrupt fools, in corruptions and being arrogant about it. Many....
 

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If development of Pakistan was any criteria, than PMLN beat all popular political parties hands down.
This is Pmln development
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When PMLN was busy building mega projects
With borrowed money
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Previously we had govt. hospitals and people would get free treatment without any card... what's the difference this time?
You got free treatment in private hospitals in previous govts? Because now you will with health cards
You asked a question about Punjab and I answered. What else is there for you to cry about. ? Just leave it already na. Even this shows you are not here to learn or know but to get a chance to prove how good your ameer ul momeneen tenure was. I need such loyal workers for my business too. But they shouldn't be jahil, just loyal.



So you mean they should also start building project likes Orange line on foreign loans. Then pay interest on those loans as well as pay subsidy on those projects ? Only then will you say Ary Imran Jani to mery siyaasi Abu pe gye hy.



Yes it beat PTI govt on many criteria's. Be it foreign loans, creating a class of politicaly corrupt fools, in corruptions and being arrogant about it. Many....
Die hard Biryani fans are all over the PDF
 

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Where's the calculation?

However In my common sense calculation, this project is a money making and money saving machine provided it's running.

May i tell you something what my friend told me about delays in M5 opening.... PTI demanded bribes of valued hundreds of billion rupees, from the company who built M5, in exchange for accepting it.
NHA staff had clear directions from Murad Saeed, not to sign until political leadership give nod, and eventually it happened in same way.....in process Pakistan lost millions daily but no one in Pakistan seems to care of that waste, neither NAB neither any state institution, neither any secretary of state.

One of my friend told me story of M6... but may be PTI manage to build it at lower cost and better quality than PMLN... so i will not state that story now, until M6 built but we are loosing daily in delay of that project.
I am not defending if anything has done any wrong there but you can show the math if this is that much profit generating project. 245000 is the daily passenger capacity, 40 rps one way cost. Anyone can do the rest of the maths and can find out how much profit this project would be generating.

One way fare is supposed to be around 40 PKR and govt is not going to give 5 billion rps subsidy per year because this project would be generating profit but because average fare would be costing per passenger over 200 rps per person and not majority of people can pay this much to use public transport there. Govt. has to make it affordable to the masses to generate a revenue to atleast minimize the loss. On top of that, govt. has to pay over 6 billion rps per year in interest against loan.
 

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I am not defending if anything has done any wrong there but you can show the math if this is that much profit generating project. 245000 is the daily passenger capacity, 40 rps one way cost. Anyone can do the rest of the maths and can find out how much profit this project would be generating.

One way fare is supposed to be around 40 PKR and govt is not going to give 5 billion rps subsidy per year because this project would be generating profit but because average fare would be costing per passenger over 200 rps per person and not majority of people can pay this much to use public transport there. Govt. has to make it affordable to the masses to generate a revenue to atleast minimize the loss. On top of that, govt. has to pay over 6 billion rps per year in interest against loan.
No surprise, you totally disregarded what i said mostly...? but regarding the math, where's your math ?
I bet regime will never provide truth full data about daily passenger count.

What I said.... 'in common sense calculation'.
Basic common sense#1 which is missing from all hater head is that, metros work all around the globe, with much more grandeur infrastructure, are those also a loss? If not, than why should this metro be in loss?

Common sense#2... what possibly could be the sane logic for building metros, across the globe, incl. 200billion BRT?

if you only work on two given common senses, you will find many profitable reasons and you would be able to understand the basic math and intelligent way of tax spending.
 

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You asked a question about Punjab and I answered. What else is there for you to cry about. ? Just leave it already na. Even this shows you are not here to learn or know but to get a chance to prove how good your ameer ul momeneen tenure was. I need such loyal workers for my business too. But they shouldn't be jahil, just loyal.



So you mean they should also start building project likes Orange line on foreign loans. Then pay interest on those loans as well as pay subsidy on those projects ? Only then will you say Ary Imran Jani to mery siyaasi Abu pe gye hy.



Yes it beat PTI govt on many criteria's. Be it foreign loans, creating a class of politicaly corrupt fools, in corruptions and being arrogant about it. Many....
One idiot sitting in PM house should be enough to support you in your smuggling business.

Sectarian always need virtual enemy and it comes by labeling and accusing others... Amir ul Mominin is Imran Khan, who has private army of Zaniboon at his disposal, may be he will unleash it with another name and twist.

Foreign loans do not come by automatically, specially in case of Pakistan, unless IMF has re-discovered some lost love for you.
What we see here IMF breaking all records in his love for Imran Khan and vice vers.

I guess, you are missing out on daily mega corruption scandals and like IMF seems not interested in which hell hole billion$ are disappearing.

Regarding the corruption of PMLN, Imran Khan promise to uncover it in his every speech, but so far the charge against NS is of UAE Iqama but that's no more effective, when we see Zulfi Bukhari types.
Considering how Imran Khan hire fire bureaucrats, it should be easy to build a fake case as well but do something, more than media trial.
 
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Tax is a charity we pay to Imran Khan, unless it's spending is not available to common man for auditing.

Not every country in the world had this system but health care is best in the world there.
Previously we had govt. hospitals and people would get free treatment without any card
... what's the difference this time?

BTW, have you tried using this card?

Does all PTI activists have this card?

Why national ID card can't be used as health card?

Difference this time is that private hospitals are also included in the "network". Its basically like NHS i.e. a collective health insurance. Please do look it up and I genuinely hope it clears up your doubts. If you are a person with sound financial means then you wouldn't understand what a poor family goes through when a family member falls sick--people resort to selling their household utensils for treatment. Naslain tabah hojati hain--all future plans for kids marriages, education, building a house go down the drain. I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy. With this card that family has insurance coverage and get treatment at participating hospitals without having to worry about money.

Despite your political inclination or whatever genuine concerns you have for the current state of governance, I hope you can appreciate and understand this situation. I do hope hope you read this and it changes your perspective on at least this matter. In this age of x generation warfare where negativity and propaganda is weaponized to demoralize people we need to appreciate the good things done by our Gov. I am sure Allah SWT would give us ajar for this if we can play a minor part in spreading positivity.
 

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One idiot sitting in PM house should be enough to support you in your smuggling business.

Sectarian always need virtual enemy and it comes by labeling and accusing others... Amir ul Mominin is Imran Khan, who has private army of Zaniboon at his disposal, may be he will unleash it with another name and twist.

Foreign loans do not come by automatically, specially in case of Pakistan, unless IMF has re-discovered some lost love for you.
What we see here IMF breaking all records in his love for Imran Khan and vice vers.

I guess, you are missing out on daily mega corruption scandals and like IMF seems not interested in which hell hole billion$ are disappearing.

Regarding the corruption of PMLN, Imran Khan promise to uncover it in his every speech, but so far the charge against NS is of UAE Iqama but that's no more effective, when we see Zulfi Bukhari types.
Considering how Imran Khan hire fire bureaucrats, it should be easy to build a fake case as well but do something, more than media trial.
It's really unique. I mean the problem that you have. I usually don't see people sh!tying from their mouth. My sympathies
 

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It's really unique. I mean the problem that you have. I usually don't see people sh!tying from their mouth. My sympathies
Shit begs shit... when you eat horse shit and i mean all of you herd... than why worry about others shit?
When you are interested in meaningful argument let me know.
 

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Difference this time is that private hospitals are also included in the "network". Its basically like NHS i.e. a collective health insurance. Please do look it up and I genuinely hope it clears up your doubts. If you are a person with sound financial means then you wouldn't understand what a poor family goes through when a family member falls sick--people resort to selling their household utensils for treatment. Naslain tabah hojati hain--all future plans for kids marriages, education, building a house go down the drain. I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy. With this card that family has insurance coverage and get treatment at participating hospitals without having to worry about money.

Despite your political inclination or whatever genuine concerns you have for the current state of governance, I hope you can appreciate and understand this situation. I do hope hope you read this and it changes your perspective on at least this matter. In this age of x generation warfare where negativity and propaganda is weaponized to demoralize people we need to appreciate the good things done by our Gov. I am sure Allah SWT would give us ajar for this if we can play a minor part in spreading positivity.
I have never voted in Pakistan, never in my life. In my all life i promoted boycott and as well on this very forum. So there goes my political inclination.

I asked simple question, how's your experience of using that card.

In history free medical facility was for everyone, once my grand uncle had heart operation at govt. hospital so now i was trying to figure out comparison.

Private is private and what's the qualification and conditions of participating hospitals... as you mentioned?

Present regime is full of thieves and pagans, they are the reason public of Pakistan is going poor, they are against all those projects, which help to reduce pollution and anxiety of public... such as Orange line metro, M6 motor way.
 

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No surprise, you totally disregarded what i said mostly...? but regarding the math, where's your math ?
I bet regime will never provide truth full data about daily passenger count.

What I said.... 'in common sense calculation'.
Basic common sense#1 which is missing from all hater head is that, metros work all around the globe, with much more grandeur infrastructure, are those also a loss? If not, than why should this metro be in loss?

Common sense#2... what possibly could be the sane logic for building metros, across the globe, incl. 200billion BRT?

if you only work on two given common senses, you will find many profitable reasons and you would be able to understand the basic math and intelligent way of tax spending.
In a post related to health insurance in health card in Azad Kashmir, from orange line to m5 to m6 to now BRT. bhae wah!

*4o PKR per passenger fare into maximum capacity of 245000 passengers per day.

I can tell you about Toronto Transit that had been given subsidy by govt. and total revenue it generated came to 95% of it's operating cost but these are developed economies that may afford to subsidize these projects unlike Pakistan which is a developing economy having a debt equal to it's gdp.
 

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One idiot sitting in PM house should be enough to support you in your smuggling business.

Sectarian always need virtual enemy and it comes by labeling and accusing others... Amir ul Mominin is Imran Khan, who has private army of Zaniboon at his disposal, may be he will unleash it with another name and twist.

Foreign loans do not come by automatically, specially in case of Pakistan, unless IMF has re-discovered some lost love for you.
What we see here IMF breaking all records in his love for Imran Khan and vice vers.

I guess, you are missing out on daily mega corruption scandals and like IMF seems not interested in which hell hole billion$ are disappearing.

Regarding the corruption of PMLN, Imran Khan promise to uncover it in his every speech, but so far the charge against NS is of UAE Iqama but that's no more effective, when we see Zulfi Bukhari types.
Considering how Imran Khan hire fire bureaucrats, it should be easy to build a fake case as well but do something, more than media trial.
Fact current govt has returned more to IMF then it has taken
It rolled over 4 b of PMLN money of IMF and infact has returned more then it took.
Original aim was to get 6b out return 4b to IMF

You can look it up
 

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