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Phillipines allows Indian Govt. Ship-builder to bid for frigate programme

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  1. Indo-guy

    Indo-guy SENIOR MEMBER

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    http://www.defencenews.in/defence-news-internal.aspx?id=P1DkRmyuvWA=


    The Department of National Defense (DND) accepted the motions for reconsideration of two foreign shipbuilding firms that seek to join the bidding for Philippine Navy's frigate program, a Navy official said.
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    The Department of National Defense (DND) accepted the motions for reconsideration of two foreign shipbuilding firms that seek to join the bidding for Philippine Navy's frigate program, a Navy official said.

    India state-owned Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers, Ltd. and STX France, SA from Europe joined the P18-billion project to boost the country's maritime forces with new warships, Navy technical working group head Commodore Roland Mercado said in a state news report on Thursday.

    DND earlier excluded the firms from the program due to deficiency in documents, but were recently reconsidered by the agency's Special Bidding Awards Committee after renewing their application.The firms now join Navantia Sepi (RTR Ventures) of Spain, and South Korean contractors STX Offshore and Shipbuilding, Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering Co. Ltd. and Hyundai Heavy Industries, Inc. which have passed the first stage of the bidding process. Mercado said the Defense officials are now conducting technical discussions with Garden Reach and STX France. The discussions will aid DND to draft final technical specifications of the required frigates, Mercado explained.

    He added that the committee was also tasked to closely scrutinize the hull, power plant, communications systems and weapons systems in the frigate designs submitted.
     
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    Good going. I think Its first foreign bidding from Indian shipbuilders.
     
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    We need to move from "Bidding" to "Building" ....

    We can do it ....
     
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    That would be great! But it would take a loong time till any shipyard could finish a ship of this size considering the fact that all yards are overbooked for years.
     
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    Yes and besides India can offer the same in comparatively cheaper cost.

    Thats true but I guess they can take help from private shipyards there. Hope so.
     
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    I fear the overbooking issue applies for private sector yards as well...
     
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    Already Indian shipyards are in overdrive trying to build for IN , how can they build for any other country
     
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    Not a gov, but private comp. L&T's new shipyard isnt booked. Hope they get orders. Max capacity is frigates.
     
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    Great.they wanted smaller frigates,not something as advanced as frigates serving in IN.I truly hope they choose something based on our OPVs(may be slightly larger,but must have capable weapons and electronics platform).

    by the way,specification.....................


    Technical Specifications:
    Budget: Php 18 billion for 2 brand-new frigates.
    Capabilities:
    - Anti-Air Warfare (AAW), Anti-Surface Warfare (ASuW), Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW), and Electronic Warfare (EW);
    - Extended Maritime Patrol with embarked helicopter;
    - Operation on up to Sea State 6
    Dimesions: per function of design (depend on bidder's proposed design)
    Displacement: per function of design (depend on bidder's proposed design)
    Range: 4,500 nautical miles @ 15 knots;
    Endurance: 30 days in tropical condition;
    Speed: maximum continuous of 25 knots;
    Boats Carried: minimum of 2 Rigid Hull Inflatable Boats;
    Operating Environment:
    - Operation at Sea State 6,
    - Non-degradation of warfare mission at Sea State 5;
    - Helicopter operation at Sea State 4;
    - RHIB operations at Sea State 3
    Complement: per function of design (depend on bidder's proposed design), but will have a non-organic crew of 8 officers, 16 enlisted personnel (embarked Task Force/air crew/1 SEAL team.)
    Propulsion: minimum of 2 engines with 2 propellers with reduction gear box;
    Power Supply: minimum of 3 diesel generators;
    Replenishment at Sea Capable.
    Navigation Equipment:
    - minimum 2 navigation radars (X-band and S-band), at least 1 in solid state design, capable of Automatic Radar Plotting Aid (ARPA), Automatic Identification System (AIS) and Automatic Tracking Aid (ATA);
    - GPS;
    - depth sounding set;
    - vessel tracking system compatible to Philippine Navy's system
    Communications:
    - Standard VHF AM/FM and UHF radios;
    - Satelite Communications (SATCOM) system;
    - Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) system;
    - "Fitted for but not with" Tactical Data Link (NATO standard), still to be determined which type, supplied by PN;
    - Local Area Network (LAN);
    -Connectivity to the PN's Littoral Observation Stations and Maritime Research Information Center.
    Sensors, minimum requirement:
    - Combat Management System (CMS), readily upgradable;
    - Fire Control System integrated to CMS, can track and engage surface, air and missile targets simultaneously;
    - Fire Control Radar and/or Electro-Optical targeting system;
    - Electronic Support Measures (ESM) with Radio Detection and Finding (RDF);
    - 2D air search radar for air surveillance and target acquisition, minimum range of 80nmi, can detect sea-skimming missiles with maximum altitude of 10ft., integrated to ESM and CMS;
    - 2D surface search radar, can detect anti-ship missile threats minimum range of 40nmi, integrated to ESM and CMS;
    - Passive and Active Sonar system;
    - Decoy launcher minimum 6 tubes per side or centrally rotating launcher
    Weapons Systems, minimum requirement:
    - 76mm gun at forward section with target tracking radar and/or electro-optical target acquisition and fire control computer;
    - 1 x stabilized secondary gun;
    - 4 x 50-caliber machine guns;
    - primary and secondary guns shall be integrated to combat management system;
    - 4 x surface-to-surface missile launchers, minimum 50km range, active homing seeker and ECCM capability;
    - surface-to-air missile launching system, minimum quadruple launcher, minimum 6km range, IR or semi-active homing seeker, with ECCM and/or IR CCM capability;
    - anti-submarine torpedoes, minimum range 2km, minimum depth 500m, with acoustic countermeasures capability, 2 x triple launchers (one on each side);
    Flight Capability: Hangar and deck facilities for at least 1 helicopter up to 10-tons.
    Helicopter Hangar Dimensions: 14.3m L x 9.5m W x 4.5m H, capable of accepting 10-ton helicopter design;
    Ammunition:
    - minimum 10 rounds each for surface-to-air and surface-to-surface missiles;
    - minimum 6 torpedo rounds and a dummy torpedo;
    - minimum 652 rounds assorted 76mm ammunition;
    - fragmentation and high explosive rounds for secondary gun;
    - minimum 54 rounds for assorted chaffs and decoys;
    - minimum of 2 ammunition storage spaces
     
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    average cost of each Frigate according to specification should be around 200 million dollars.that means, Modified Saryu Class vehicle may be applicable.some cross breed between Kamorta and Saryu perhaps.
     
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    Wow, our MIC is maturing fast
     
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    From importer to builder to exporter, my we have travelled far.
     
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    GRSE should just design & prepare the blueprints for the warship (they're good at that).

    Construction should be handed over to private shipyards like L&T. They are far more efficient & quicker at delivering.
     
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    Interesting, the fact Indian shipyards have at least a decade worth of orders though is a real issue the Philippines will likely take into account but as far as products go GRSE should be able to offer some very capable products for this demand. Looking at the specifications and the budget (around $400mn so $200mn per ship) they aren't looking for something as advanced or expensive as the Shivlaik-class frigates, an up-gunned OPV would certainly seem to be an ideal candidate to meet this criteria.

    Even if the Indian bid doesn't work out it is good to see Indian firms now bidding in these sort of contests and it will give them good exposure to these sorts of things that they can build on for the future.
     
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    No this is not the first from India. But probably the first from a state owned entity.