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  1. Spring Onion

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    Army announced on Tuesday the commencement of fencing on the Pak-Afghan border.

    “In line with the directions of COAS, phased fencing of entire Pak-Afghan border has commenced,” the military’e media wing said.

    “In phase 1, high infiltration prone border areas in Bajaur, Mohmand and Khyber Agencies are being fenced,” it said. “In phase 2 fencing of remaining border areas including Balochistan will be executed.”

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    Besides fencing, the statement added, Pakistan Army and Frontier Corps Khyber Pakhtunkhwa are constructing new forts. “Border posts [are being built] to improve surveillance and defence.”

    “A secure Pak-Afghan border is in common interest of both countries and a well coordinated border security mechanism is essential for enduring peace and stability.”

    Pakistan insists fencing and other measures are aimed at checking cross-border movement of militants, blamed for violence in both the countries.

    At least 10 people including an FC personnel and women, children were killed and 47 others injured when Afghan forces targeted troops guarding a census team in Chaman last month.

    The attack caused the border to be closed again indefinitely while a curfew was imposed in Torkham bazaar as a preemptive measure.

    https://tribune.com.pk/story/1440449/phased-fencing-pak-afghan-border-begins/
     
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    About time!
     
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    Good try but the Pak Afghan border can never be effectively fenced. The terrain is simply not amenable to that aim. We should learn a lesson from Indian failures along LoC. If we are going to be satisfied with merely the fence then this is a false sense of security. Our real security is in toppling the Indian lackey government in Kabul and attacking Indian economic interests throughout Afghanistan.
     
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    Finally!

    Still even more impotant things is the mobility through check-points... only the well documented individuals must be allowed.

    Step in the right direction long way to go....
     
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    this is what people demand shot them on sight if they dear to cross that border
     
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    Would a light fence like in the pic do the job it is intended ?
     
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    A fence itself serves no purpose, RCGs controlled from HQs to be mounted and lethal zones be earmarked and told to the populace.
     
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    Fencing alone is half of the work. The real work starts after the fencing. You still need considerable manpower to monitor and deter cross border movement. Add surveillance drones and other useful tech for this purpose and life becomes much easier. A fence is nothing, but a helpful aid in achieving this goal.

    Afghans are hostile and responsible for many terror attacks in Pakistan. Keeping these people out of Pakistan is an obligation.
     
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    Fence , Wall , Trench with Sharks , than Mines ..
     
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    this is an article on nytimes newspaper very informative where the border security force have created a virtual wall instead of a physical one which has been very effective .
    worth reading the details how they have created it

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news


    ROMA, Tex. — From a compact, portable shed on the outskirts of this border town, Jonathan Hoyt has an expansive field of vision. His computer is linked to cameras and surveillance equipment that allow him to see rubber rafts on the Mexican side of the Rio Grande nearly three miles away, simply by moving a tiny joystick.

    Mr. Hoyt, a Border Patrol agent, is using equipment that the Defense Department brought back from Afghanistan, where it was used to track the Taliban. It is part of a potent arsenal that also includes towers, drones and aerostats — giant blimps attached to the ground that can hover as high as 5,000 feet. Helicopters using powerful infrared sensors and video cameras also patrol the skies.

    Law enforcement officials say that deploying this array of technology has resulted in tens of thousands of arrests on a border that remains a primary transit point for drug smuggling and migrants crossing into the country illegally.
    Despite President Trump’s calls for a massive wall to secure the border — which Representative Henry Cuellar, a Texas Democrat, ridiculed as a “14th-century solution to a 21st-century problem” — the fight against illegal immigration and drug trafficking on the United States-Mexico border has increasingly become high tech.

    Mr. Trump has proposed an increase of $2.9 billion for border security, but nearly 60 percent of that increase would be for the border wall.

    Predator drone aircraft, “aerostats and towers fill in existing gaps along the border where Border Patrol just doesn’t have the manpower,” said David Aguilar, a former acting commissioner of Customs and Border Protection and now a principal at Global Security and Innovative Strategies, a consulting firm in Washington.

    “It allows them a view of what is happening on the border,” Mr. Aguilar said, and to “deploy resources to respond to people crossing or drug smuggling.”

    That can be easily seen from Mr. Hoyt’s desk. On a recent day, he moved his joystick and zoomed in on dozens of people on the Mexican side of the Rio Grande. He relayed the information to agents near the river who quickly moved in to catch them on the United States side.

    The equipment is provided to the Department of Homeland Security under the Defense Department program established to repurpose military equipment previously used in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    The Department of Homeland Security also uses more than 12,000 sensors along the border, hundreds of license plate readers at ports of entry, and giant X-ray scanners for trains and trucks. The agency is planning to add smaller drones with facial recognition capabilities, and additional equipment that can capture biometric information.
    The combined technology creates what some Homeland Security experts say is a virtual wall in some areas of the border that can be as effective as a physical one, at far lower cost.

    Mr. Aguilar said acquiring new technology for border security should be the top priority for Homeland Security, above building a wall or other physical barriers and hiring more Border Patrol agents.

    “Technology is definitively first,” he said. “These are things that can be used on any part of the border. There are places where you just can’t put a wall.”


    While the technology makes it easier and faster to track smuggling and drugs, it also makes it easier to track innocent people.

    Guadalupe Correa-Cabrera, a professor at the University of Texas Rio Grande Valley and a fellow at the Wilson Center in Washington, said the buildup of technology on the border had turned once-sleepy towns where people moved freely across the border into mass-surveillance zones.

    Every move of residents is documented and cataloged, she said, eroding the privacy of local residents.

    Despite the concern of privacy rights supporters, Manuel Padilla Jr., the Border Patrol sector chief for the Rio Grande Valley, said the area actually needed more technology.

    “If you look at the Rio Grande Valley right now, we do not have the situational awareness of knowing what is happening across the border because of the lack of technology,” Mr. Padilla said.

    He said the additional technology, such as sensors that can penetrate dense foliage, was needed because Border Patrol agents could not reach many places along the river where there were no access roads.

    “In the absence of being able to get in there, we need to be able to see what’s going on so we can catch drug trafficking and other activity” before those who are doing it reach cities in the region, he said.

    The use of technology from the Defense Department “has made it possible for us to see some things we didn’t know existed before,” Mr. Padilla said. “But there is a need for more technology to deal with the unique challenges in the valley.”

    The technology has also been deployed at ports of entry, where thousands of people cross the border every day. It is used for everything from detecting agricultural pests that pose a threat to the nation’s food supply to catching bulk cash and drug smugglers.

    At the Hidalgo port of entry, just across the border from the Mexican city of Reynosa, the technology is on full display.

    As vehicles approach checkpoints, stationary cameras take images of the front and rear license plates, an image of the driver and a color picture of the car. Those images are then run through a database to check for criminal records, immigration law violations or terrorist activities.

    The cameras also store in a database the location of the vehicle and the date the image was taken — even if a search does not trigger an alert on passengers in the vehicles.

    This gives us a pretty good picture of who is moving across the border,” said Frank Longoria, a Customs officer who is assistant director of field operations for border security. “Ninety-nine percent of people who cross are doing so for good reason, but trying to catch that 1 percent that is doing something illegal is challenging.”

    In a small building not far from the entry and exit lanes, a Customs officer, Eugene Jimenez, looked at an X-ray scanning system, which allows him to see anomalies in the frame of a vehicle. He said he was looking for spaces where there should be solid material, or obvious signs of tampering in the gas tanks, batteries or other areas.

    A few days before, after a currency detection dog reacted to a white 2008 Volkswagen Passat traveling into Mexico, Mr. Jimenez noticed a space in the bumper when the car was pulled aside for a scan, he said.

    When the bumper was removed, officers discovered more than $250,000 hidden inside. The driver was arrested.

    “They can get pretty creative,” Mr. Jimenez said. “We’ve found crystal meth in gas tanks, marijuana made to look like watermelons and limes. You name it.”

    Customs and Border Protection officers use larger versions of the scanning machines to examine buses and even trains for drugs and human smugglers.


    But there are limits to using technology on the border. Predators and aerostats, for instance, cannot fly in thunderstorms or high winds.


    The high-resolution cameras cannot see in the thick brush that grows along the Rio Grande, and wildlife or cattle can set off sensors, sending Border Patrol agents chasing false alarms.

    And drug cartels are constantly adapting their methods and finding ways to bypass the technology. Over time, Homeland Security officials say, smugglers quickly learn how the systems work and adjust their strategy.

    Mr. Longoria said the shift in tactics by cartels showed that the border technology was having the desired effect.

    “The fact that they are trying to find more and more creative ways to get their drugs and smuggle people across shows that the layered system of technology and people is working,” he said. “We want to make it as difficult for them to operate as we can. The cameras, blimps and other equipment gives us the ability to do that.”
     
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    build mini cities along with the border, so deploying more man power will be economically viable
     
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    the wall or fencing have been required from past 10 years as it has been started NOW they need to take it to step further and not just stop it only at afgan border take it to the end of the IRAN BORDER i know the army has fenced some parts of iranian border as welll but if its not fully completed then the whole border needs to be fenced and mins needs to be placed around the fence with trenches and sensors.
    any one coming close to the border needs to be shot dead right away without asking any questions it is harsh but that is what needs to be done instead of filling our jails .
    the further steps we need to take our start installing the big TRUCK SCANNERS and dont let any vehicle come in to Pakistan and going from PAKISTAN without getting scanned .We did bought few of these scanners but i havent seen any pics of them actually working any where (may be a senior member will know better then me )
    2nd start taking finger prints and facial scans of people going to Iran and Afghanistan and coming to pakistan as well .search every single person slow it down for afganis to come in pakistan make it as difficult as we can for them .
    3rd instead of using our normal work force to build this wall we need to use prisoners who are sitting in our jails and we our feeding them to get fat .offer them incentives like if they do 1 year of work in helping build the wall and roads they will get one or two month off from there sentence only if they do work in FATA KPK AND BALocHISTAN ....when these prisoners are done with building roads move them to build dams and laying railway lines ...........SAVE MONEY.....but no prisoner from kpk or fata or Baluchistan should be used as they will be local dont want them to escape .....use the prisoners in sindh and punjab in FATA ,KPK AND BAlochHISTAN and same thing needs to be done with prisoners in kpk and Balochistan send them punajb and sindh


    GO OLD SCHOOL hard labour FOR PRISONERS.....
    BUILD A LONG AND BEAUTIFUL WALL WITH RAINBOWS AND UNICORNS :)
    name the wall THE GREAT WALL OF PAKISTAN

    any more suggestions are welcome lol
     
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    :) in My Personal Opinion the Symbolic Importance of the move is more intense than the actual purpose and this is the right and strong step Pakistan had taken.
     
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    Its simply not a fence but will become a heavily mined area.
     
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    Well NOt exactly because over the decades Pakistan had avoided any such mining due to movement of the civilians from Afghanistan into Pakistan