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Yeah but India has a daily dose of hindutva poison that has torn the social fabric of India apart

What your suggesting is no longer possible
There are political and religious human rights violations against Muslims in India which US government has taken note of, but sloganeering for Pakistan is the worst thing they can do. They should say Long Live India. Every patriot wants to change their own country for the better and they have the right to. For the natives, it's their ancestral home of tens of thousands of years. They should take pride in having native blood. That is the self awareness they must develop. The lack of pride is an Indian issue. There are Muslims among Arabs and they are proud Arabs. Turks are Muslim and they are proud Turks. Most Indonesians are Muslim and they are proud Indonesians.
 

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As usual, Radio Rwanda version of Indian media doctors videos and posts fake news.


Did PFI protesters shout ‘Pakistan Zindabad’ slogans in Pune? Police say no​

The police deny the claim made by Times Now, ANI, Republic, Lokmat, Nai Duniya as fake news.​


ByPrateek Goyal24 Sep, 2022
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Did PFI protesters shout ‘Pakistan Zindabad’ slogans in Pune? Police say no

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Times Now reported on Saturday that members of the Popular Front of India had shouted “Pakistan Zindabad” slogans during a protest in Pune against the arrest of their comrades a few days earlier. The offending slogans, the TV news channel claimed, were shouted at the collector’s office near Sassoon Hospital on September 23.

The claim was repeated by ANI, Republic, Nai Duniya, and Lokmat.


But the Pune police say the claim is false.
Several police officials who have watched videos of the protest told Newslaundry that PFI members were shouting "Zindabad, Zindabad, Popular Front Zindabad”. There was no mention of Pakistan.
“Nobody shouted Pakistan Zindabad slogans. This is utterly false,” Pratap Mankar, senior police inspector, Bund Garden, said. “Their slogan was ‘Popular Front Zindabad’.”

Another police official who has jurisdiction in Bund Garden, where the protest was held, said, “This is complete fake news. Some channels are spreading misinformation to disturb peace and harmony in our city. We have checked everything, and thoroughly. The protesters were shouting slogans in favour of the Popular Front and not Pakistan.”
Newslaundry also spoke with a few of the protesters and they all denied having heard “Pakistan Zindabad” slogans.
“The police had not given permission for the protest but people still gathered outside the collector’s office, 200-250 of them,” said Abdul Aziz, one of the protesters. “The protesters were shouting ‘Zindabad, Zindabad, Popular Front Zindabad’ and some Allah-u-Akbar. After 10 minutes, the police detained about 40 people and released them late in the evening. I was there throughout and nobody shouted ‘Pakistan Zindabad’.”
Another protester, Mohammad Kaiz, said, “None of the protesters shouted any such slogan.”
 

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There are political and religious human rights violations against Muslims in India which US government has taken note of, but sloganeering for Pakistan is the worst thing they can do. They should say Long Live India. Every patriot wants to change their own country for the better and they have the right to. For the natives, it's their ancestral home of tens of thousands of years. They should take pride in having native blood. That is the self awareness they must develop. The lack of pride is an Indian issue. There are Muslims among Arabs and they are proud Arabs. Turks are Muslim and they are proud Turks. Most Indonesians are Muslim and they are proud Indonesians.
India is an artificial identity not comparable to Arab, Greeks, Turks etc. It will never have all people loyal to the state. For natives the identities are Punjabi, Gujrati, Kashmiri, Bengal etc.
 

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Pajeets can still see you haven't changed your flags to properly represent where you're from.
now get some brains pajeet.

... Plus, they must develop Indian pride. That means if anyone hurts them, their Indian pride and identity should remain unaffected.
How can they develope any pride with people, for example, like forums hindutva members, in reall life it is probably even worse.
And what should they be proud of anyway, on casteism and other similar strange tradtitions?
 

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India is an artificial identity not comparable to Arab, Greeks, Turks etc. It will never have all people loyal to the state. For natives the identities are Punjabi, Gujrati, Kashmiri, Bengal etc.
Indian identity is not an artificial construct. India has one of the world's largest militaries which faces off against China, something which Pakistan cannot think of. Indians have local pride and civilizational pride, which became national pride at independence.
 

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Indian identity is not an artificial construct. India has one of the world's largest militaries which faces off against China, something which Pakistan cannot think of. Indians have local pride and civilizational pride, which became national pride at independence.
It looks like you don't understand what identity means.
 

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How can they develope any pride with people, for example, like forums hindutva members, in reall life it is probably even worse.
And what should they be proud of anyway, on casteism and other similar strange tradtitions?
Pride is independent of others. My pride and identity are mine. Like my faith in God. Both are part of who I am.
 

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It looks like you don't understand what identity means.
More like you don't. Hindustani identity is older than Persian identity which we carried in our ancestry. Also Bihari identity is the oldest ethnic identity in the subcontinent. It is originally monotheist faith identity. India has the national emblem of Lions of Faith (in God). Look it up.
 

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Pride is independent of others. My pride and identity are mine. Like my faith in God. Both are part of who I am.
It is easeir said then done. Lack of humanity and endless verbal gymnastic of hindutva members where they shoud show basic human decency in regards of atrocius acts from their state towards minorities shows that is mission almost imposiible to be done in real life.
 

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Here I looked it up ...
The Bihar Regiment's crest was adopted from the three headed lions of Ashoka. Captain Habibullah Khan Khattak, as acting Commanding Officer, 1st Bihar Battalion (Later Major General in Pak Army) selected the crest in 1941. In 1945, the then Governor of Bihar, Sir Thomas Rutherford when visiting 1st Bihar at Shillong was so impressed with the regimental crest, that he requested Lt. Colonel Habibullah Khan Khattak's permission to adopt the emblem for the Bihar Government. The Bihar Government then published gazette notification in May 1945 adopting the crest. Post Independence, Government of India too adopted the three headed Ashoka lions as Government of India Crest

 

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There are political and religious human rights violations against Muslims in India which US government has taken note of, but sloganeering for Pakistan is the worst thing they can do. They should say Long Live India. Every patriot wants to change their own country for the better and they have the right to. For the natives, it's their ancestral home of tens of thousands of years. They should take pride in having native blood. That is the self awareness they must develop. The lack of pride is an Indian issue. There are Muslims among Arabs and they are proud Arabs. Turks are Muslim and they are proud Turks. Most Indonesians are Muslim and they are proud Indonesians.


Are you not listening,, India is becoming a hindutva extremist communal disaster,, how exactly would Indian Muslims give loyalty to Hindu extremists who hate them and a state who supports those hindutva extremists
 

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Are you not listening,, India is becoming a hindutva extremist communal disaster,, how exactly would Indian Muslims give loyalty to Hindu extremists who hate them and a state who supports those hindutva extremists
Muslims have experienced far worse situation at partition. The reason you were happy is because of their supposed chants of long live Pakistan as if that is going to help. If true it is akin to idolatry but it is less than 100 out of 200 million.
 

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Muslims have experienced far worse situation at partition. The reason you were happy is because of their supposed chants of long live Pakistan as if that is going to help. If true it is akin to idolatry but it is less than 100 out of 200 million.



It's spreading everywhere amongst Indian Muslims and others including Sikhs

Hindutva poison is tearing the social fabric of India apart

Indian Muslims must protect their own community against their enemy the Hindus not care about India when India does nothing but target them
 

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