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PA's New Haider MBT is the T99A- Type 99 MBT

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  1. mingle

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    According Haris our khalid met the same fate what Indian Arjin met.
     
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    At ideas 2018 they introduced ak1 and provided update on ak2 so not sure where is this t-90 coming from?
     
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    He's not always correct, has been wrong a few times also. Isn't he the one who was stating not too long ago that PN would turn into a coastal navy soon as it wasn't getting any new surface vessels etc. etc. Can we say that is the case today?

    Regarding T-90 there have been reports about it for some time now so this is not the first we are hearing of it, only time will tell if it happens or not. And it's a no brainer that that would not be good news for Al Khalid.
     
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    i cant believe going for T-90S. these are not as good at AK or even new AH.
     
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    Remember few things this is only TIT Bit things changes plus many factors like economics force to abandon the ideas.
    Usman shabir and him r pretty accurate.
    This PDF I am following since it begans this one is more colorful.
    His criticism on PN is very real PN needs more surface ships and more money to fill the gaps. I read when said about it.
    I am old timer on these forums.
     
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    Like I said, some times correct but not always. However in this case his accuracy or not does not matter because reports about T-90 for PA have come from other sources before. So like I said only time will tell if it will happen or not.

    Yeah I know criticism of PN was real, it just wasn't fully justified because PN doesn't control the economy and because although there maybe some issues, he painted a bleaker picture than real.
     
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    Not to be a devils advocate, but i do think that keeping current circumstances in mind, there are more chances of IBO's, ambushes, cross border raids etc happening rather than an armored assault by India, so the funds for new MBT should be diverted towards more transport aviation assets and MRAP's for COIN war. If this WOT ever ends, these MRAP's can be diverted to Paramilitary and Police forces while the military still keeps the transport aviation fleet to introduce more air-mobile light-infantry formations for air assault Ops.
    Unless ofcourse the new MBT or any other COIN-modernised MBT takes part in the WOT with troops in Baluchistan. In any case, AK-II is an ongoing project so PA won't be deprived of a new MBT in coming decades.
     
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    There is nothing wrong I respect ur opinion. T90S is a Cool tank plus Mi35 we looking some serious money here.
    According to him Russia also offering Ak103 with RPG 27 for local production.
    If this news is correct then next logical step is Su 35.
    My take is current yr trip of IK to US is also very important we may I said may see some serious purchase from US as well if they offer financing which should be no issue. Plus good news is India kicked out from Afghanistan.
    My heart says legend F16 will back.
     
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    We can use HIT for AK project plus Wheeled APCs to troop protection if we procure T90S in decent numbers.
     
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    If anybody shelves AK then i can assure u that it will be a big scandal, given that PA has failed to even export a single AK like PAC/PAF exports JF17s and generates money and puts into project........

    HIT's end will begin if they destroyed this project and so ill be the start of Armed Forces end of control of Defence Industry specially Army's over HIT/HMC
     
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    I posted this yesterday in the thread started by Rafi. So interestingly according to H Khan, VT-4 offered by China is nothing more than advanced AK-1 but with the same issues, and hence Pak not interested and AK-1 project being shelved. It is a pity that after so many years, no progress has been made. And I am very surprised that no funding was given to the tank project.
     
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    I believe he is misreading the situation about the AK program which is not going to be shelved or put on hold or suspended, pace of progress may vary depending on many factor.

    Al-Haider category tanks would not be a simple off the shelve acquisition but will also pave the way for our new partner in armoured program for this plz recall the interview of Pakistani Ambassador Athar Abbas to Ukraine in which he clarify that we are not only looking for tanks but want to acquire technologies which we lacks in tank manufacturing, relevant part is quoted below (Link for the complete interview)

     
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    Thanks HRK. I hope you are right, and something good eventuates between Pak-Ukraine.
     
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    I also hope HRK is correct but it is also possible that agreements with ukraine hit some problems with changing situation. One hopes for the best.
     
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