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Panama Case - Post Verdict Discussion and Updates

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  1. Realistic Change

    Realistic Change FULL MEMBER

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    You are right - this situation is unique - the reasons that Judges had soft corner for Nawaz are not present any more - now the Judges have to be judicious more by design than by default.
     
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  2. Farah Sohail

    Farah Sohail SENIOR MEMBER

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    True...If hudaibya case re opens ...then we will have to thank Justice Khosa for tht, once again... because he didnt leave any other option for these judges.. he has written so comrpehensively on hudaibya case already..tht how sharif family influenced and tht reference was quashed...tht now other judges have no other choice..

    Agar Justice Khosa ke itnay detailed verdict ke baad bhi..Justice Qazi Faez Isa aur Justice Mazhar Alam Miankhel...sharif family ke favor main verdict dein..aur NAB ki appela reject kardein
    .....tu woh bhtt badnaam honge..

    I dont know if Justice Qazi Faez Isa and Justice Mazhar Alam Mianhkel would want to be exposed..Although ke dil se tu woh zuroor sympathetic hain Nawaz sharif ke liye..esp Justice Qazi Faez Isa..but as i said .....Justice Khosa ne inn ke liye koi raasta nahi chora..

    I soooo love Justice Khosa for this..for the sheer torture and pain tht he has given to sharifs through a single verdict..his panama verdict will haunt sharifs forever... Justice Khosa is a true gem... May Allah bless him always
     
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    Path-Finder SENIOR MEMBER

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    Incase no one has seen this

     
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    Breaking story: Saudia Arabia has decided to investigate corruption cases of Mian Nawaz Sharif (along with others) on charges of money laundering and misuse of public office. https://t.co/z8C9JaHQb6
     
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    WaLeEdK2 SENIOR MEMBER

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    Is there a source? It might be fake.
     
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    Reconsider plea for clubbing of references: Nawaz to SC


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    ISLAMABAD: Ousted PM Nawaz Sharif on Saturday challenged the Supreme Court of Pakistan’s order of not entertaining his petition against filing of multiple references by the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) in line with the Panama Papers verdict.

    The SC registrar’s office had returned Nawaz Sharif petition after by raising objections. Earlier, Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Justice Saqib Nisar, on November 16, had also dismissed his appeal after maintaining the objections raised by the registrar office.

    The former premier, through his counsel Khawaja Haris, filed a constitutional petition under Article-184(3) of the constitution at the apex court challenging Justice Nisar’s verdict.

    “Since the petitioner’s case is identically placed, the judge in chambers (CJP) ought to have treated the petitioner’s constitution petition on the principles of equality, as well as of due process, and accordingly set aside the order of the registrar and referred the petitioner’s constitution petition for consideration by the larger bench on this question of law,” said the petition.

    It added: “Even otherwise, it is trite law that there is no bar on the jurisdiction of this honourable court under Article-184(3) read with Article-187 of the constitution in respect of a judgment which is per incuriam (refers to a judgment of a court which has been decided without reference to a statutory provision or earlier judgment which would have been relevant).”

    “This view was confirmed by this apex court in the judgment reported as re-application by Abdul Rehman Farooq Pirzada; PLD 2013 Supreme Court 829, wherein it was held that this honourable ’court, in exercise of jurisdiction under Article-184(3) read with Article-187 of the constitution, has unlimited powers to revisit a judgment which is per incuriam, irrespective of the mode and manner in which it is brought to the notice of this honourable court,” said the petition.

    “In a case where a judgment passed by this court is challenged on the ground of it being per incuriam, this court is under a constitutional duty and obligation to hear the matter on merits and such petition cannot be disposed [of] by a judge in chambers.” It is further contended that the order forces the petitioner to face the rigours of multiple prosecutions for a single offence, which is tantamount to violation of his fundamental right under Article 10-A of the constitution.
    https://dailytimes.com.pk/151536/reconsider-plea-clubbing-references-nawaz-sc/
     
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    :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:
     
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  8. Zibago

    Zibago ELITE MEMBER

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    Baradar Islami mulk activating the shurtas after qataris get royal treatment :D
    @PakSword @Farah Sohail
    With the recent odd and aggressive moves by Saudi i wouldnt be surprised if they actuallt go for it
     
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    Path-Finder SENIOR MEMBER

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    I just remembered this "qatar da baaz" :omghaha:

     
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    :fans:
     
  11. PakSword

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    Lolz..

    Lain ji.. @Farah Sohail ... pehlay 2-1 tha hudaibiya ke reopening ke favor main.. abb against honay ka imkaan hai..

    Yes, it is clear.. but why is Paji Faiz asking the question from NAB prosecutor as if NS was a masoom nanna kaka at the time of quashing?

    I think there is a link to the recent arrests in Saudi.. NS has some business relationships probably..

    But yes, you are right.. NS will land directly in London.. His connecting flights from Jeddah are in jeopardy..

    Qazi Faiz Isa ke liey kuchh bhi mushkil nahi..

    When Panama verdict was fresh, he bashed Irfan Mangi despite knowing that his moves will not be considered great at all..
     
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  12. Shane

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    I would have to agree that this is a good point indeed but i was of the pov at the time of Irfan Mangi's bashing by QFI that may be he did slipup to provide an excuse for QFI to do his chitrol but still i agree that the way that chitrol was done is a cause for concern.

    The detailed judgment on this reopening case will indeed be a test and the fate of legal battles to come.

    @Farah Sohail I postd a while ago that I so hope that more of the SCP judges get to hear cases/appeals related to MNS and co that we may know who is who by the time the Panama references appeals get to SCP.

    Whatever happens in Hudaibya, even if it is dismissed on technical grounds - for which the possibility is still minute thanks to Justice Khosa - still, the worries for Shahbaz Sharif should not end there due to his partnership in crimes of the elder brother over three dacades of rule.

    Corruption allegations like the Multan Metro debacle raised by SECP's equivalent in China, should be investigated and raised as a seperate case by NAB. Even if NAB does not then it should be made part of a campaign to raise this issue by PTI and JI and Shaikh Rasheed so that NAB is ordered to investigate this Multan Metro Corruption Case.

    I don't know why Sheikh Rasheed goes soft on Shahbaz Sharif and Ch.Nisar group but if MSS survives somehow then so will MNS legacy linger on.

    With a view to Supreme Courts drive against corruption in coming years; these corruption cases have a very good chance to be taken up by SCP with Chiefs who are as strong as Ch.Iftikhar but not as compromised or tilted in favour of Sharifs and have a strong commitment to root out corruption.
     
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  13. Realistic Change

    Realistic Change FULL MEMBER

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    You'll know the reason soon....very soon :)

    Edit: Actually if you read my few older posts - there’s clear reference to the reason/s for this and beyond.
     
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  14. Shane

    Shane SENIOR MEMBER

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    As if your posts weren't intriguing enough already. :enjoy:
    Birds of a feather...i understand that there is a flock in sight.

    I still stand by regarding MSS being partner in crime and must not be allowed to get away with it in any case.
     
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  15. Farah Sohail

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    :(:(

    But I still think...Justice Khosa can be our saviour here too....

    Becaues Paa ji is patwaari...dil se

    Waisy yaad ha..ek waqt tha... ke hum sochtay thay ke kaash panama bench main Ejaz Afzal ki jagah Qazi Faez Isa hotay...

    But acha hua ke Ejaz Afzal thay..

    Jitni applications sharif family ne...JIT members ke against di theen...agar Justice Qazi Faez Isa ya Dost Muhammad hotay tu woh tu JIT members ke peechay parr jaatay..

    But Ejaz Afzal supported JIT... esp after hussain nawaz photo leak..unhon ne JIT members ke against koi remarks nahi diye.but supported them.. sharif family ki tactics ko nakaam banaaya..

    Qazi Faez Isa kehtay kiun na hum JIT members ko mulzim banaa dien? Jaisy Irfan Mangi ke baaray main ye remarks diye thay unohn ne baad main..

    Qazi Faez Isa ke saamnay tu ab Ejaz Afzal farishta lagtay hian.. Ejaz Afzal bhi sympathetic thay sharifs ke liye..lekin agar woh honest na hotay tu unn ke pass bhi bohatt mauqe thay..woh as head of panama implementation bench..us waqt un due favor de saktay thay sharif family ko..esp jab har roz ek application aati thee JIT members ke against...Ejaz Afzal chatay tu kisi na kisi tarah... sharif family ko favor de saktay thay...jaisy Qazi Faez Isa aur Dost Muhammad ...jit members ke against thay.. aur unhon ne Irfan Mangi ke against remarks diye thay......agar chahtay tu Ejaz Afzal bhi manipulate karsaktay thay..sharif family ke favor main... jaisy ab Qazi Faez Isa is trying to bail out sharifs by blaming it all on NAB.. but Ejaz Afzal ne aisa kuch nahi kiya.. he supported JIT..

    Waisy... Qazi Faez Isa ke baaray main.. aap keh rahay tha ke aap ne suna hai ke Qazi Faez Isa ki wajah se kaafi cases technical grounds par farigh hogaye thay.. waisy tu hum khud bhi samajh gaye hain Qazi Faez Isa ko......lekin aap ne exactly kia suna hai..Qazi Faez Isa ke baaray main ..in ki reputation ke baaray main generally? @PakSword
     
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