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Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

Discussion in 'Pakistan Army' started by Zarvan, Jul 25, 2015.

  1. FN-SCAR-H

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  2. Beretta ARX-200

    51 vote(s)
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  3. CZ-806 Bren2

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  4. Kalashnikov AK-103

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  5. Zavasta M21

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  1. razgriz19

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    It says 7.62x5/0.308 winchester ammo used on the bottom right.
    Now why would they write that if they didn't test it?
     
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    Interesting Magazine report but again mention of 7.62 X 39 and 5.56 X 45 but no mention of 7.62 X 51

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    The Mk.17 is a US SOCOM designation of a Belgian FN SCAR-H modular assault rifle



    Country of origin United States
    Entered service 2009
    Caliber 7.62 x 51 mm
    Weight ? / 3.58 kg / 3.72 kg
    Length 889 mm / 965 mm / 1 067 mm
    Length (with folded stock) 635 mm / 711 mm / 813 mm
    Barrel length 330 mm / 406 mm / 508 mm
    Muzzle velocity 714 m/s
    Cyclic rate of fire 625 rpm
    Practical rate of fire 30 - 90 rpm
    Magazine capacity 20 rounds
    Sighting range ?
    Range of effective fire 300 m / 600 m / 800 m


    The Mk.17 is a modular battle rifle, used by the US Special Operations Command (US SOCOM). At some point the US SOCOM requested a new combat rifle, that would be available in different calibers and would replace the current M14,M16, M4 and Mk.11 rifles. In 2004 it was announced that a Belgian FN SCAR modular assault rifle was selected to meet this requirement. Version of the FN SCAR, the SCAR-H, chambered for 7.62x51 mm ammunition was adopted by the US SOCOM as the Mk.17. Another version of the same weapon, the SCAR-L assault rifle, chambered for a lighter 5.56x45 mm ammunition, was adopted as the Mk.16. Deliveries of both rifles commenced in 2009. These were delivered to all branches of the US SOCOM, including Navy SEALs, US Army Rangers, Army Special Forces, MARSOC and AFSOC. However in 2010 procurement of the Mk.16 was suspended due to the lack of performance difference over the standard M4 carbine to justify the purchase. However the US SOCOM continued purchasing the Mk.17. The Mk.17 is manufactured in the United States by the FNH USA, a subsidiary of the Belgian company. This weapon is currently widely used by the US special forces, and proved itself well.

    The Mk.17 is a gas-operated, selective fire weapon with modular design. It is chambered for a standard NATO 7.62x51 mm full-power ammunition. The key idea of the modular system, that it provides the US special forces with a wide variety of configurations. Each weapon can be reconfigured in the field within the matter of minutes. The Mk.16 and Mk.17 assault rifles have the same layout, controls and maintenance procedures, as well as 90% parts commonality. Three quick-detachable barrels with different lengths are available, including short (330 mm / 13"), standard (406 mm / 16") and long (508 mm / 20"). These barrels can be quickly replaced, so the shooter can customize his weapon depending on actual mission requirements. None of the previous US special forces weapon could be easily modified in this way. Version of the Mk.17 with the shortest barrel is a rather unusual weapon with compact dimensions, but with a firepower of a battle rifle. This configuration is intended for close quarter battles.

    The Mk.17 assault rifle can be configured to fire the 7.62x39 mm ammunition. In this case it can accept standard 30-round AK-47 / AKM magazines. This feature allows to fire enemy ammunition what is very important for operations behind the enemy lines.

    An ambidextrous safety and fire mode selector switch has positions for "safe", "semi-auto" and "full auto". A charging handle can be easily installed from either side of the receiver. Spent cases are ejected only to the right side. However there is a deflector, which propels the spent cases away from the left-handed shooters. This weapon has excellent ergonomics.

    The Mk.17 is fed from 20-round capacity magazines.

    A side-folding buttstock is adjustable for length. It can be completely removed from the weapon.

    This assault rifle has a full-length Picatinny-type scope rail for mounting various optics. It comes as standard with detachable flip-up iron sights. Though these special forces weapons are typically used with various scopes. This assault rifle can also mount night vision sights. Effective range of fire is up to 600 meters against single targets and 800 meters against area targets.

    There are additional Picatinny-type accessory rails, mounted on both sides and under the foregrip. These are used to mount various add-on accessories, such as tactical flashlights, laser pointers, vertical grips, bipods and so on.

    Flash hider of the Mk.17 can be used to snap barbed wire by inserting the barbed wire into the flash hider and twisting the weapon. Alternatively it snap the inserted barbed wire by shooting through it. Also this weapon can mount a sound suppressor. Though it looks like the Mk.17 can not mount a bayonet.

    This weapon is compatible with an Mk.13 40 mm underbarrel grenade launcher, which can be also used as a stand alone unit.



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    Mk.16 is a version of the Belgian FN SCAR-L, chambered for a lighter 5.56x45 mm ammunition. This weapon uses 30-round magazines. Its effective range of fire is up to 500 meters against single targets and 600 meters against area targets. This weapon was adopted by the US SOCOM, alongside the Mk.17 in 2009. However in 2010, soon after its introduction, the US SOCOM announced that they will cancel all purchases of the Mk.16. The main reason was a lack of performance difference comparing with the standard M4 carbine to justify the purchase. Instead they planned to purchase 5.56 mm conversion kits for their Mk.17 battle rifles, that would allow to convert them to fire the same 5.56x45 mm ammunition as the Mk.16. At the time the US SOCOM already bought 850 Mk.16s.

    Mk.20 is a sniper variant of the Mk.17. It is chambered for a 7.62x51 mm ammunition and comes with a precision barrel.

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  7. Bilal Khan (Quwa)

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    That's because the magazine report predates IDEAS 2016. Us not seeing the 7.62 NATO variant of the CZ-807 does not change the fact that CZ listed both its existence and test results on its official material at IDEAS.
     
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    Hazrat @Zarvan why is it a difficult pill to swallow?

    I just followed the progress of Hazrat @Zarvan from page 190 of this thread because I had spare few minutes :cheesy::cheesy: and my goodness it is a diamond in the rough in pure entertainment value.

    https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan...-replacement-competition-2016.426049/page-190

    hazrat @Zarvan from flatly accepting the blasphemy of there being a x51 CZ to accepting it as a DMR in x51 :disagree::disagree:
     
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    @TheOccupiedKashmir It would be interesting if the ToT package being negotiated with CZ expands into indigenous barrel, polymer, composites, etc, development. The expertise (especially for efficiency) could be extended into improving the POF LSR.
     
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    It is a matter of time before officials confirm FN / Beretta are out of the competition and CZ :victory1::victory1:.

    Maulana will likely collapse; reportedly a kids critical care ambulance is on standby outside his house. :yahoo:

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    CZ has shown willingness for ToT. Anything in addition to CZ 807 would be more welcome.
     
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    if turkey has replaced their g3's with their own mpt-76 then why dont pakistan go for that?
     
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    our Hazrat @Zarvan is already feeling little hot under the collar now:whistle::whistle::enjoy:

    https://twitter.com/zarwanali1989

    its next to the bayonet in sheath the long black thing, the cylinder shape is a little naughty :ashamed:but it can very well be the cleaning kit? makes sense.
     
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    Due to our over-reliance on foreign research and development.