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Pakistan’s railway network to be extended to Gwadar, Kashgar under CPEC

Discussion in 'CPEC' started by Shahzaz ud din, Aug 18, 2019.

  1. Darth Vader

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    Bullet Trains doesnt make any sense.

    Pakistan Should build a large infrastucture which can move high number of goodes and people at 150 to 250 KM
    as bullet train makes sense when you have a large number of people moving daily between lets say 4 main cities
    Peshwar, Islamabad , Lahore and Karachi
    If you have daily lets say daily 100,000 People moving its makes sense but if its less it wont make profit,
    Goverment will have to support that it will go in loss and circle goes on,
    Pakistan has 2 Options
    1Upgrade Decades old infrastucture or
    2 rebuild everything.
    Pakistan should build newer system keeping in sight on future growth in.
    Pakistan should look for a service which provides better and cheaper service so less people use Public Buses and Airplanes.
     
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    This is huge huge news! this will make CPEC viable. Transportation is the cheapest via rail link... wow wow wow... chinese goods will just come down the slope. whereas oil shipment up karakoram will require cascaded train engines ... i cant believe i am hearing this news.. wow wow wow.. good for the people of that region..
     
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    The beauty of bullet trains is that they make no sense until they do.

    Imagine living in Lahore and going to work in Islamabad every day.
    In Japan people do those kinds of trips all the time on bullet trains.

    I am not saying they will magically work, there is a lot of feasibility work that needs to be done first but a country like Pakistan, which is long and narrow with high population is a basically meant for a bullet train
     
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    Until You have 100,000 People using these everyday not gone do anything will only cost the nation
     
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    Can people afford the heavy fairs of high speed trains.

    I don't think so.

    In Pakistan lot of people try to travel ticket free in trains.
     
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    That Depends on the daily usage and how much profit these train earn,
    the less people travel, more expensive these become, Decent Bus and Train system makes much more jobs than Road or Air alternatives.
    More people travel the more revenue these earns, if these are electric trains and Pakistan builds cheaper energy from renewables resources and maintence time and services cost is low thanks to low pay in Pakistan these can be pretty profitable only if you connect your 6 Main Cities.
    Peshwar, Queeta , Islamabad , Lahore , Karachi and Gwadar as if these cities become business hubs with higher number of people moving daily. As Will help build the bridge between difference provinces as well.
     
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    If there is a country which can build this world wonder railway over the treacherous terrain and the harsh weather of the Pamir mountains, it's got to be China. We built a modern railway on the roof of the world through Himalaya mountains in Tibet over a decade ago.
     
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    If the economy improves, people will use Trains more than Busses because Train ticket is cheaper than Busses. We should go for high speed train, not bullet train.
    We don’t have the economy to bare the cost of bullet train, at least not now. Once Gawdar city is operational, maybe then we can have bullet train between Gawdar and Karachi.
     
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    Any person that has knowledge of the current ground realities first hand is welcome to answer this simple question.

    How safe it is for a Punjabi ethnic person travel and visit to places like Gwadar, Quetta, Chaman Border etc. all alone in his Lahore/Islamabad registered number plate vehicle (Car/Bike) from Lahore/Islamabad to those places?

    The perceived threats are normally the criminal gangs and thugs of Southern Punjab/Northern Sindh areas, then the insurgents, Terrorists and Anti Pakistan Baloch separatists groups who actively search for a Pakistani specially the Punjabis to cast their own anger upon their victims due to the history of wrong doings and negligence of Punjabi dominant civil, military leadership. How is the actual Law and Order situation in those areas for tourists and persons seeking Business opportunities there as these areas have the pivotal role in the ongoing multi billion dollar CPEC project
     
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    And that electric system will electrify our own children during floods and rains.
    We need a lot of fixes in many places before everything works the way it does in developed countries.

    Orange metro and whatever metros are coming up and knowing our society, I can only wonder whats gonna happen to our sisters and mothers during rush hours...
     
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    As safe as any of the locals, dont spread false propaganda boi
     
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    I have no intentions to spread any propaganda as I am planning to travel to those places myself any time in future and required a bit of travel advisory from informed persons as there had been incidents reported in the past decade or so of abductions/killings of persons who were not locals there by some terrorists and foreign funded and foreign motivated persons in far off tribal areas where security forces, Government writ was almost non existent.

    But after successful operations like Zarb e Azb, Rad ul Fasaad and previous Ops too, securing and fencing our borders by security forces and limiting foreign (specially US deep state) interferences, exposing and culminating RAW proxies and Kalbhushan Yadav's network etc. have greatly helped in making Pakistan more secure and peaceful not just for its own citizens but for foreign tourists as well.

    I only tried to get the latest updates of the ground realities by someone really knowledgeable and have experienced it first hand rather than any media (both local and international) bullshit they often portray about our country.
     
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    U stated the obvious