Pakistan's New F-16 Block 52 vs SU 30 MKI.

SU30MKI radar is a PESA system versis F16/52 a traditional MSA APG68 RADAR although stil good.

THE PESA scans over a wider width, at twice the speed, over a greater range.

PESA is a half a generation in tech ahead of the APG68.

su30mki carries upto 12 aam versis F16 around 6 MISSLES

su30mki has a TVC engine meaning its AOA(ANGLE OF ATTACK) CAN BE EXTREMME..

su30mki has 2 engines so its range acceleration is superior.

SU30MKI carries far more fuel so combat radius is twice that of the F16/52.

F16/52 is an older plane by well over a decade
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SU30MKI RCS is massive big disadvantage

F16/52 BVR missle AMRAAM considered the best in world.

F16/52 proven in combat SU30MKI never used in anger.

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SU30MKI is a newer more poweful plane. only arrived in 2003

Best flanker in the world.

F16/52 a magnificent legacy USA fighter with awesome performance
globally..

MKI has the edge but not by much i think

 

The SU-30 can track targets as far away as 350km, and bombers as far as 400km, how does the F-16's radar compair?

 

APG68 Mechanical scanned radar.

Its tracking nos and speed of tracking is less than PESA BARS.

I think it can track up to 150km but will take longer to pik up the signals than a PESA.

 

Well played sir...

 

Of course most of the specs clearly speaks in favour of MKI, but I think it won't be as easy as it seems!

The question is when will the MKI detect the F16 and when the F16 the MKI?
The Bars has more range, but mainly for bigger targets than an F16 (correct me if I'm wrong please, RCS around 1m²?), on contrary the F16 radar has less range, but might be able to detect the MKI at max range, because of the high RCS of the MKI.
Aim 120 vs R77 should be clear, but also interesting imo will be, Aim 9 + JHMCS vs supermanuverability + better EWS.

So even in BVR, as well as in WVR the F16s (not to forget the older once that will be upgraded to MLU level) will cause some headache to IAF and MKI.

 

Isnt our primary air-superiority fighter the Mig29? In all eventuality, wouldnt the MKI serve as an AWACS role to the MIG29 which would go head to head with an F-16 if ever the situation arose?

I find it hard to grasp if the IAF would pitch an asset like the MKI directly with an F-16...unless in a dire situation when we have platforms like the Bison and MIG-29 that can take on this role and are solely procured for this purpose....

From what I hear....The Bison is quite a beast.....Not to be written off just yet....

But Im assuming this is all hypothetical.....right?

Maybe a MuradK callibre personality can enlighten us.....

 

I don't care about the radars. The R-77 vs AMRAAM is the the big what if. The Falcon can hold its own in BVR, or air to air. But the SU-30MKI bombs better and has a higher endurance. Lets say the Falcon has a even chance. The Flankers or IAF still outnumber PAF, easily, ontop of that the Falcons can only hold a defensive postion due to the increasing air shield of India. Longer range of SAMS means that India doesn't need to send aircraft to deal with aircraft. S-300 SAMs have a estimated range of 200 km. SAMS are also catching up. Ontop of that the range of indian missiles from ballistic to cruise are stocking up on the border. Cold START could just might as well be a realise of artillery to dystroy Pakistani defence assets.

 

Well now that PAk finally has BVR missiles. They have finally leveled the playing field.

Now It comes down to

-the BVR missiles being used.
-The radar equipped on the planes.
-The EW suites

Only if one side has the better systems, for all three of those categories. Can they be said to have the advantage.

 

Black blood, I think you're still not getting the picture or you just want to answer my statements with another condradicting one. You're statements don't come as a suprise nore do they actually fill my knowledge.
While I do mantian that Pakistan will indeed purchase ballistic missiles and produce their own artillery units and ammunition. They still can not produce or purchase the vast numbers India can. There is a military gap between the two and both armies are aware of it.
India has more missiles, and will only build more, more than Pakistan.
India has more of everything and will only build more of everything, more than Pakistan.

The SAMs you've listed are SPADA, and FT-2000. I believe that the SPADA is short ranged and the FT-2000 has too many RUSSIAN components. The system itself recieved Russian assistance and this system Pakistan has not recieved and is prone to sanctions even if Pakistan WAS INTERESTED in it.

On top of that the Indian military even doesn't purchase S-300 or relatives anymore because they are too unreliable and costly. The Indian military only purchased a few systems for protection of very important military installations. The rest is medium and short range sams that have a higher kill probability because of their inherent shorter range. Which helps guidence radars to be more accurate at these shorter distances.
They future the Indian military will have longer range SAMS, up to 80 km and they are training their pilots to counter the threat of S-300 SAMS.
So how will the Pakistani side counter Indian military SAMS....? they can't and they won't. They may just aim for the airfields but the sams are too nuemerious. PAF's only reliable aircraft capable of jamming older or newer SAMS is the F-16 and they have too few of them.
The Indian military can counter Pakistani SAMS with MBRL or Missiles. although the MBRL and artillery will be most likily. Anything else can be done with Jags, and Flankers. Both of which exceed in SEAD.
IAF will also hunt and dystroy Pakistani armour clearing the way for for Indian infantry and armour. The T-90/72 doesn't need to be shot at. Leaving the T-90 to deal with bunkers and moving the line forward to Pakistan's rear artillery which with mines would have dystroyed alot of the Indian military tanks.
Alkhalid and T-80 are tanks that are best suited to attack during night with a preamptive attack in mind. During the day, they are fair game for even the basic T-72 since both tanks share the same major flaw.

But this above is just the possibility. They actual action would involve alot more infantry after 2 weeks of war than this. The initial strike will always be airstrikes and artillery as seen in the previous wars. India and Pakistan, have always managed to fight a respectable war, which is largerly different to what the PLA have been use to.