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Pakistan Air Force SAAB-2000 Arieye over Centaurus Mall Islamabad in reference to Pakistan Day Fly Past rehearsals ...

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With the PN acquiring Embrarer aircraft for the MPA role, and the limited altitude the Erieyes can fly, perhaps it is time to buy some Embrarers for the PAF and add on a radar similar to the MESA radar on E-7/Peace eagle/wedgetail Awacs the Turks fly for some aircraft and equip other with the Havasoj suite for EW. Radar range out to 600 km, may mean being able to see stealthier planes further out or those issuing advanced jamming like the Rafales. 4 of each could really be significant in the event of a major conflict; allow the PAF to maintain air superiority in Pakistani air space, and allow them to make aerial incursion in strength if the need arises, despite the SAM threat.
 
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With the PN acquiring Embrarer aircraft for the MPA role, and the limited altitude the Erieyes can fly, perhaps it is time to buy some Embrarers for the PAF and add on a radar similar to the MESA radar on E-7/Peace eagle/wedgetail Awacs the Turks fly for some aircraft and equip other with the Havasoj suite for EW. Radar range out to 600 km, may mean being able to see stealthier planes further out or those issuing advanced jamming like the Rafales. 4 of each could really be significant in the event of a major conflict; allow the PAF to maintain air superiority in Pakistani air space, and allow them to make aerial incursion in strength if the need arises, despite the SAM threat.
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Actually there are probably a lot of lightly used airliners that could be acquired for a discount these days. If the Turks use their knowledge of their MESA radar to make a similar system, scaled to fit an Embraer, it might be the best option for Pakistan.
Nothing new except perhaps da20 replacement or upgrade for ew

 

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Nothing new except perhaps da20 replacement or upgrade for ew

For the DA-20 replacement we should go with the Havasoj from Turkey. The Turks operate the S-400 and are preparing to deal with French and Greek Rafales, as well as have considerable knowledge of the F-35 (and by extension EW capabilities). They are probably the best source to get a DA-20 replacement.

What I was proposing is to add a high level of Awacs to improve the look first capabilities of the PAF. I read somewhere that the PAF erieyes can only operate up to 25,000 feet at crushing altitude; which limits the radar horizon to a max of 300 km (calculation is square root of altitude x 1.22 will give you the distance in miles) while a plane flying at 40,000 feet could see a 100 km further. With a similar set of more powerful sensors, as on the Turkish Awacs, an aircraft at that altitude could have the means to see low observable and EW jamming aircraft. But in order to do that, that PAF could need a platform that can fly that high for a sustained amount of time, at an affordable price. This maybe a long term aspiration and just food for thought for the next decade.
 

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For the DA-20 replacement we should go with the Havasoj from Turkey. The Turks operate the S-400 and are preparing to deal with French and Greek Rafales, as well as have considerable knowledge of the F-35 (and by extension EW capabilities). They are probably the best source to get a DA-20 replacement.

What I was proposing is to add a high level of Awacs to improve the look first capabilities of the PAF. I read somewhere that the PAF erieyes can only operate up to 25,000 feet at crushing altitude; which limits the radar horizon to a max of 300 km (calculation is square root of altitude x 1.22 will give you the distance in miles) while a plane flying at 40,000 feet could see a 100 km further. With a similar set of more powerful sensors, as on the Turkish Awacs, an aircraft at that altitude could have the means to see low observable and EW jamming aircraft. But in order to do that, that PAF could need a platform that can fly that high for a sustained amount of time, at an affordable price. This maybe a long term aspiration and just food for thought for the next decade.
I agree on HAVSOJ for PAF if Turkey approves, they are the ideal DA-20 EW replacement.

I think PAF can mount the Erieye-ER on Embraer now to get that extra range if it wanted. It may, or maybe not in their plans. China has a lot of projects in the works as far as AWACs goes, and maybe PAF has their eye on a under-development chinese platform to mount on a Embraer?
 

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