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    Pakistan’s Afghan burden (Farrukh Khan Pitafi)

    An oft-repeated question one often comes across is: “What do you expect from the new Afghan government?” And invariably, the same mind- numbingly dull yet honest answer: “Same old blame game, what else!” Some may find this answer rather harsh, but come on, who are we kidding, we all knew this day was to come.

    There is an underrated and underreported hostility between the two countries with very deep historical roots. And it has nothing to do with any “cross-border infiltration”. The land that we now call Pakistan once used to endure repeated excesses of marauding hordes of invaders from Afghanistan. For them, the real prize was India’s capital, Delhi, and we were only a sideshow meant for pillage. And this was even before Pakistan’s birth.

    When Pakistan was created, there was only one country that voted against its admission into the United Nations. Not India, not any regional or global power. Surprise, surprise: it was Afghanistan. Saad Akbar Babrak, the assassin of the nascent country’s first prime minister, Liaquat Ali Khan, was Afghan by nationality. Many have still not forgotten the issue of greater Pashtunistan that once was pushed forward by the then Afghan government to dismember the newly-formed state. Speaking of cross-border terrorism (a border that the Afghan side does not accept since Pakistan’s inception), it might be of interest to you that in 1950, Pakistan had to suspend the trans-shipment of petroleum to Afghanistan in retaliation for Afghan tribal attacks across the border. The purpose of bringing these archaic facts up is to highlight the nature of hostility that has almost always prevailed on the other side of the Durand Line.

    Our Afghan peers never get tired of blaming Pakistan for their suffering. But frankly, Islamabad is not responsible for the stupid decisions of their rulers. In a country that took its modern form after the Soviet Union’s disintegration in the 1950s, we were responsible neither for the creation of the People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan, nor its Parcham and Khalq factions that brought Soviet invasion upon them. The rebellions that were used as an excuse for invasion were also staged by Afghan nationals — not any foreigners. Even the Afghan Taliban are, above anything else, a ragtag army of Afghan nationals.

    Let us face the truth. No matter how harsh we are on the now defunct Soviet Union, the US or our own country, for intervening in the internal matters of Afghanistan, they all viewed themselves as friends of Afghanistan and stepped in to help at the call of Afghan citizens. But that is what Afghanistan does. It sucks its friends in its conflicts, destroys them and then very conveniently blames them for everything too.

    In the 12 years after 9/11 and the subsequent US occupation, Afghanistan has very effectively exported its conflicts to our territory. Of course, there is no point in denying Islamabad’s stupidity in trying to influence Afghanistan. But the fact is that while it simultaneously seeks our help, it undermines the Durand Line, encourages the US invasion of Pakistan and its nationals habitually smuggle weapons and drugs through Pakistan, Afghanistan is a deadly brother and a deathly ally.

    Back in the 1920s, during the Khilafat Movement, some Muslims of India decided to migrate to Afghanistan. Afghanistan closed its borders and countless perished. For the past 35 years, Pakistan has housed the largest population of Afghan refugees — the largest population of refugees in any country and yet we are the proverbial bad guys. As someone who believes that these refugees be now naturalised, I am the first one to accept that they have not lived in luxury, but they have lived and in circumstances not very dissimilar to a majority of Pakistani citizens. There is one hell of an ungrateful country there then.

    And there is no point in blaming India for all this. I tell you, many Pakistanis who wince at the prospects of Narendra Modi becoming India’s prime minister find it easier to work with a government led by him than any in Afghanistan. And if this comes across as a diatribe to you, sirs, you know all you have to do is only to look into the mirror.

    Published in The Express Tribune, April 5th, 2014.

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    Our Afghan peers never get tired of blaming Pakistan for their suffering. But frankly, Islamabad is not responsible for the stupid decisions of their rulers. In a country that took its modern form after the Soviet Union’s disintegration in the 1950s, we were responsible neither for the creation of the People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan, nor its Parcham and Khalq factions that brought Soviet invasion upon them. The rebellions that were used as an excuse for invasion were also staged by Afghan nationals — not any foreigners. Even the Afghan Taliban are, above anything else, a ragtag army of Afghan nationals.


    Hopefully everyone Afghan read this, but blaming ISI for their misery is easy way out.
     
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    Very well written article. Its high time Pakistanis realized the reality of this so called brotherly neighbour nation of ours. There was a time when I genuinely thought that the anti Pakistan faction within that country formed only a marginal section of their society. However once I read about the history of that country's actions towards ours (for example attacking our embassy in Kabul in 1955 , allowing the burning of our flag on numerous occasions, allowing mobs to sack our consulates, all of this long before the Soviet invasion and any subsequent Pakistani involvement in Afghanistan internal affairs) I quickly realized what hate and jealousy they bear towards us.
     
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    Which means that Pakistan has no history? as ghaznavids, ghorids, khiljis, tuhghliqs, sayyids, lodhis, suris and mughals were either from the region which is now afghanistan or launched their invasion from there (in case of mughals)......
    The writer need to do some study, king amanullah welcomed indian mohajirs of hijrat movement as anti-British sentiments were on peak due to fresh anglo-afghan war of 1919.....But afghan government was poor, its independent tribal inhabitants never paid taxes nor the country had the resources to host entire muslim population of India......indian moahjirs were never stopped at the border, tens of thousands of them actually settled in camps in kabul and vicinities.......But the harsh climate, lack of food and disease forced them to return back....afghans were improvised people, they could not host mohajirs......Afghans didnt kill them, harsh weather of afghanistan and its dry terrain killed them.

    By the way it was very stupid idea to leave hindostan and migrate to afghanistan......the idea was that crores of indian muslims were supposed to migrate to afghanistan!
     
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    Excellent article. The Afghans for us are instinctively nothing but trouble. My sincerest apologies if that makes me sound like an arrogant, narrow minded and hateful person. But I have nothing against the Afghans and what they do. I just wish that they do what they do, but don't involve us.

    If we Pakistanis are as bad as they say we are, then please let them also dump all our sympathies, let them live separately to us, accept this line of division and call it a day.

    If I was in power in Pakistan, on foreign policy, this would be my number one issue. Deciding on a route for future relations (or lack thereof) with the Afghans.
     
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    Which Afghans are instinctively trouble for you people?. Pashtuns? who also live in your country. Hazaras? one millon of them also live in your country. Tajiks? who are dominant in army and government or uzbeks of dostum ?. Or those half million balochs who live in southren afghanistan?.....or those beautiful nuristanis whose kinsmen also live in your kalash valley?
     
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    @Afghan-India

    What do you say about this? When will Afghanistan stop blaming Pakistani ISI?

    No, only those Afghans who hate Pakistan and blame everything on ISI. Moreover, they see Western Side of Indus River not as Pakistan (which it is) but as "Afghanistan" ...

    Afghans are seen as 'brothers' in Pakistan but yet they hate us, despise us, and want to break Pakistan. How come? Was it our fault that fucking British Empire did some stupid contract of 100 years with Afghans? Pakistanis got this land as "Pakistan". People of the land see themselves as "Pakistanis"

    Why don't Afghans have a good relationship with us and accept Durand Line as International Border?
     
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    Bottomeline is, our successive Pakistani governments have no political spine to do what must be done. WHO CARES if Afghanistan accepts the Durand Line or not?!?! Afghanistan neither has the military muscle, nor the political clout internationally to do anything about the Durand Line. Our Pakistani rulers have tongues the length of airforce runways, but they cannot do a simple thing like what the United States has done on its border with Mexico. FENCE IT. 10ft high reinforced concrete walls, lined with electric fencing and motion sensors, a rapid-response border authority with multiple teams based all along the Baluchistan and KP border with Afghanistan. COMPLETE LOCK-DOWN. The only crossings should be limited to official crossing points.

    All hubris aside, the solution is THAT simple; but unfortunately, no one has the spine to put it in to motion.
     
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    Don't play that card with me matey. That kind of bait might work on someone else, you need to try a wee bit harder.

    Read my damn post before you babble. I already stated I have no hate for Afghans, a deep mistrust, and little patience, yes.
    And I do not have any problems with any of the people you've listed, only the people and the state of afghanistan as a whole and what it means for us. It's nothing but trouble.
     
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    Do you have $150 billion to $300 billion, massive industrial engineering strength (like that of China!), and political will to do that?

    Because 'fencing' Hindu-Kush mountains will require the Chinese strength!!!!
     
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    Can you even think byond ethnic lines? Hell even Tajiks live in Pakistan though not many. Does it even matter? Fact is Afghan goverment has repeatdly tried to udermine Pakistan.
     
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    if you want an honest answer then there is only one solution
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    fence the damn border
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    & guard it
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    end of story
     
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    Despite all the crap we're going to hear for saying. That truly is the only solution, a complete barrier. Maybe then they can go bother someone else.
     
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    in this case we should take a lesson or two from Iran , afghans even claim certain areas of Iran, but frankly Iran doesn't even give two $h!ts, not only did it fenced the border , heck it even shoots anyone entering it with out a visa !
    Yemen claims the entire Jeddah region of Saudi Arabia ! (no kidding), But the Saudis have fenced it none the less, another example when Iran started fingering Turkey (& @ that time Turkey was economically down )but Turkey fenced its border none the less, so why cant we ? all this talks of it will cost too expensive is nothing but putting our heads further under the sand, countries needs to do what is in their interest. & if that means fencing the Durand line, so be it. plus if we fence it today it will cost us like $10 to $15 bln max, but if we don't then God Forbid, tomorrow, it can cost us Pakistan ! as I said before there is no other way, but to fence this border anyhow
     
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    USA should buy Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Oman and Yemen's Humvees to give them Afghan as KSA and UAE-Jordan are making their own vehicles. KSA Humvees can be bought by USA to give them to Pakistan....