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Pakistani-Chinese Naval Capabilities A Growing Threat

Discussion in 'Pakistan Navy' started by JafarQureshi, Apr 19, 2020.

  1. SBUS-CXK

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    How shameless. the yankees squeezes our strategic space. threatening to block the Strait of Malacca. then accuse us want to "rule the earth." WTF! this is the new Hollywood movie?

    so. US Navy to the SCS is a "freedom of navigation." Chinese navy to the Panama Canal is a "global threat"?

    Sorry, we are not targeting any country,we just want to say to the yankees - I love your mother.
     
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  2. aziqbal

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    Chinas hard work has paid off since 2010, last 10 years China did not look up slowly they went from 1 x Type 071 LPD to today 2 x Carriers, 2 x LHD and 8 x LPD a very large and capable fleet

    in 2021 we will see the 003 launched thats second only to USN

    now if China add 004 by 2025 with 2 x CVN 005 and 006 by 2030 thats 6 x carriers, 2 x STOBAR, 2 x CATOBAR and 2 x CVN

    by which time the 3rd LHD will be launched with 3 larger x Type 075A

    What does Pakistan bring with 4 x Type 054AP? it brings operability and Pakistan can also integrate its units into future Chinese carrier strike groups it can be part of the entire battle group

    thats more than just single FFG there is alot of benefit in this type of operation

    now add 8 x SSK from China again important word here is "operability"

    if we can add a Type 054AP + 1 x SSK to a future Chinese carrier strike it would be hugely beneficial
     
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  3. Tipu7

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    By 2030, Pakistan Navy will be far capable than what it is now and will be able to minimize the capability difference against Indian Navy to great extent despite of later's consistent modernization. Same goes for China.
     
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    We needs 6 Type 052Ds armed with HHQ 9B/HHQ 9C?
     
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    I would disagree. We have a reasonably small coastline. India and China use longer ranged systems on their air defense frigates/destroyers since they have a very large coastline to protect. The 70km range on the HHQ-16 is pretty sufficient and as China develops the missile further, we may see a better variant for longer ranged defense or different missiles for different roles, like the US standard series
     
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  6. Pakistani Fighter

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    We need to destroy Brahmos like Supersonic missiles as far away from our platforms as possible as it has great Kinetic Energy. Long Range SAMs would make their MPAs stay away from observing our platforms and hunting for submarines
     
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    Hi,

    Taking a look at the map---Turbat would be an ideal place for an air base for the navy---. A little far back from the ocean---source of water right by---a comparative secure place---.
     
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    Hi,

    In the US it is called Eminent Domain--- The Colonel knows better not to make such stupid comments---.

    Under eminent domain---even a private land developer can take your property pay you and move along----like building a city mall etc etc etc leave alone the military---.

    Sadly---the US should not have fckd up pakistan like it did after 2005---but then the US being US---it does it out of habit---.
     
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  9. OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ

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    If Pakistan is to avert an Indian Naval blockade than it needs an out of the box solution. Pakistan needs a Naval base in Somalia, Turkiye already has a military base in Mogadishu and they will be receptive to having a shared naval base. It changes the whole paradigm...
     
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  10. MastanKhan

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    Hi,

    Pakistan basically needs heavy strike aircraft like the JH7A's equipped with CM400AKG's---. Indian naval flotilla would not even get close---.

    But yes---yemen crisis provided this opportunity for pakistan---but then pakistanis fckd up---.

    As a nation for its self preservation---there is NO COUNTRY more callous and short sighted than my motherland and no people more careless about their country than pakistanis---.
     
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