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    Pakistani-Chinese Naval Capabilities A Growing Threat
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    LAWRENCE SELLINRETIRED COLONEL, U.S. ARMY RESERVE
    November 06, 201811:30 AM ETFONT SIZE:
    I am not talking about the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a program of infrastructure and resource exploitation projects linked to a transportation network that connects China to the Pakistani ports of Gwadar and Karachi on the Arabian Sea, the flagship of China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) and Beijing’s blueprint for global domination.

    I am talking about CPEC’s hard power component, the enormous expansion of dual-use military facilities being established all along Pakistan’s southern Balochistan coast.


    The purchase of land in Balochistan by the Pakistani Navy and the expansion of naval facilities in the province have occurred in parallel with the onset of Chinese investment in the deep-water port of Gwadar after an agreement was signed during the state visit of Chinese Premier Zhu Rongji in 2001. Construction began in 2002 and subsequent to completion of Phase 1 in 2007, the first commercial cargo vessel docked at the port on March 15, 2008, the then Chinese “POS Glory,” with 70,000 metric tons of wheat.

    In 2008, the Pakistani Navy obtained 2,500 acres of land near Kunchiti village in the Dasht subdivision along the M8 highway, which eventually became part of the CPEC land route connecting China to Gwadar. In that area, there is a large parcel of fenced land with watchtowers where Chinese officials and engineers have visited and conducted pre-construction soil sampling. The site is believed to be designated for the housing of personnel.

    In 2010, the Pakistani Navy acquired, some might say confiscated, farmland on the outskirts of Turbat, a city northeast of Gwadar and approximately 100 kilometers inland from the coast. In 2017, Pakistan opened — and the Chinese visited — a new naval air base outside of Turbat. The base is meant to provide air surveillance and defense cover for the maritime areas between Gwadar and Pakistan’s Ormara naval base, considered of strategic importance to CPEC.

    In December 2017, it was reported that high-level Chinese delegations had visited Sonmiani, just north of Karachi, and purchased large tracts of land in the area. Sonmiani is the location of Pakistan’s space center and the newly-established Weapon Testing Range, built with the support of China.




    This year there have been revelations about plans to build a Chinese naval base on the Jiwani peninsula, Chinese submarine visits to Pakistan’s Ormara naval base and Chinese-Pakistani discussions related to potential military projects on the island of Astola, which is located adjacent to vital sea lanes about twenty miles off the coast between the Pakistani naval bases at Pasni and Ormara.

    Recently, local residents claim the Pakistan Navy is buying thousands of acres of land around the Kalmat Khor Lagoon, roughly halfway between the Balochistan’s coastal towns of Pasni and Ormara (again), even though the area surrounding the lagoon is a designated wildlife sanctuary. Fishermen in the village of Kalmat say their access to the lagoon has been blocked by security posts being built by the Pakistan Navy.

    Thus, in less than a decade, there has been an unprecedented increase in Pakistani-Chinese naval capability along the entire Balochistan coast from the Jiwani peninsula near the Iranian border to Sonmiani just north of Karachi.

    Seen as an extension of CPEC, this “China-Pakistan Military Corridor,” commenced last month under the guise of Pakistan’s Regional Maritime Security Patrols (RMSP). It is being advertised as a means “to protect national and international shipping” and an ability for “generating rapid support to contingencies like Humanitarian Assistance, Search and Rescue and Non-Combatant Evacuation Operations in times of need.”


    More likely, RMSP and the expansion of dual-use Pakistani-Chinese naval capability in Balochistan is to secure CPEC, control “critical sea areas and choke points in the Indian Ocean region” and provide a strategic link between China’s bases in the South China Sea and its naval facility in Djibouti at entrance to the Red Sea and the Suez Canal.

    The “China-Pakistan Military Corridor” will isolate India, increase the vulnerability of U.S. operations in the Persian Gulf area and outflank the U.S. naval base on Diego Garcia.

    Beijing’s ambitions remain unchecked.

    Lawrence Sellin, Ph.D. is a retired U.S. Army Reserve colonel, an IT command-and-control subject matter expert, trained in Arabic and Kurdish, and a veteran of Afghanistan, northern Iraq and a humanitarian mission to West Africa.

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/06/pakistan-chinese-threat/
     
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    China to Supply Pakistan With 8 New Stealth Attack Submarines by 2028


    Four of the subs will be constructed in China and the remaining four in Pakistan.

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    By Franz-Stefan Gady
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    China will provide the Pakistan Navy with eight modified diesel-electric attack submarines by 2028, the head of the country’s next-generation submarine program told the Pakistan National Assembly’s Standing Committee on Defense during the committee’s visit to the Naval Headquarters in Islamabad on August 26, according to local media reports.

    The Pakistani senior naval official’s statement in front of the committee members provides official confirmation that the program is moving ahead, although it is still unclear whether a contract has been signed. In April, a senior Pakistan Navy official announced that Karachi Shipyard & Engineering Works (KSEW) had secured a contract to produce four of the eight submarines, which will be fitted with air-independent propulsion (AIP) systems.

    The defense deal is valued at $4 to $5 billion and China is expected to extend a long term loan at a low interest rate. It has not officially been confirmed what type of submarine will be supplied to the Pakistan Navy by the China Shipbuilding Trading Company (CSTC) and there has been considerable speculation on the subject in the past (See: “Confirmed: Pakistan Will Buy Eight Chinese Subs”):

    [T]he Wuhan-based China State Shipbuilding Industrial Corp (CSIC) supposedly had already signed a contract in April 2011 to deliver six Type 032 Qing-class conventional attack submarines by 2016/2017. (…) [O]ther media sources report that Islamabad will build submarines under license based on the Qing-class vessels displacing 3,000 tons: “Pakistan will also build two types of submarines with Chinese assistance: the Project S-26 and Project S-30. The vessels are to be built at the Submarine Rebuild Complex (SRC) facility being developed at Ormara, west of Karachi.”

    The majority of analysts speculate that the new submarine will be a lighter export version of the People Liberation Army Navy (PLAN)’s Type 039 and Type 041 Yuan-class conventional attack submarine, excluding the sub’s AIP system, which might be procured independently.

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    According to IHS Jane’s Fighting Ships, the Type 041 Yuan-class is “a diesel electric attack submarine (SSK), potentially with Stirling air-independent propulsion, that is armed with YJ-2 (YJ-82) anti-ship missiles and a combination of Yu-4 (SAET-50) passive homing and Yu-3 (SET-65E) active/passive homing torpedoes.”

    It purportedly is one of the quietest subs in the PLAN’s inventory. The scaled-down 2,300-ton export version is designated S20. The first four submarines are expected to be delivered by the end of 2023; the remaining four will be assembled in Karachi by 2028. The new subs are expected to form the the sea-based arm of Pakistan’s burgeoning nuclear second-strike triad.

    The Pakistan Navy is in middle of upgrading its undersea warfare capabilities. In June, Turkish state-owned defense contractor STM won a contract for the mid-life upgrade of three Agosta 90B-class (aka Khalid-class) diesel-electric attack submarines equipped with air-independent propulsion systems.

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    https://thediplomat.com/2016/08/chi...with-8-new-stealth-attack-submarines-by-2028/
     
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    Pakistan should strengthen its navy with Chinese help. Best way to stop India or any "Indo-Pacific block" would be to stop oil and gas flowing out of the Arabian sea. Japan, India, S Korea, Australia...etc are all big ME oil importers. Can't fight a modern war without oil. China would still be able to acquire oil from Russia, Central Asia, and ME (via cpec). The "Indo-Pacific" is a dumb concept militarily. Its too vulnerable. The USA should stop this new cold war with China in my opinion.
     
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    Steel cutting ceremony for two Type 054A/P frigates in China built for Pakistan Navy
    November 2019 News Naval Navy Maritime Defense Industry
    POSTED ON SUNDAY, 03 NOVEMBER 2019 16:56



    According to a press release of Pakistan Navy Media Directorate published on Friday, November 1, 2019, the steel cutting ceremony of two Type 054 A/P multi-role Frigates, being built for the Pakistan Navy, was held at Hudong Zhonghua Shipyard in China.

    [​IMG]Chinese-made Type 054A Jiangkai-II class (Picture source Sino Defense)

    China recently started the construction of an export version of one of its advanced frigate and will deliver it to Pakistan as part of a major arms deal. The ship is a version of the Chinese Navy's most advanced guided-missile frigate Type 054AP

    According to the Pakistani Navy, the ship's class is Type 054AP, which means it is based on the Type 054A of the People's Liberation Army Navy. According to Chinese source, four frigates had been ordered by Pakistan.

    The Pakistan Navy has ordered four Type 054AP frigates and the last two orders were announced on 1 June 2018. The ships are expected to enter service by 2021.

    With these new ships, the Pakistani Navy will have one of the most technologically advanced platforms of Pakistan Navy that would strengthen its capability to meet future challenges and maintain peace, stability and power equilibrium in the Indian Ocean Region.

    The Type 054A frigate is a class of Chinese multi-role frigates, the first of which entered service with the People's Liberation Army Navy Surface Force in 2007. It is a development of the Type 054 frigate, using the same hull but with improved sensors and weapons. This ship has a crew of 165 sailors including officers.

    The Type 54A is equipped with 32 vertical launcher systems able to fire the HQ-16 medium-range air defence missiles and anti-submarine missiles, 2x4 C-803 anti-ship/land-attack cruise missiles and two Type 730 seven-barrel 30 mm Close-in Weapon Systems (CIWS) guns, 2x3 324mm Yu-7ASW torpedo launchers, 2x6 Type 97 240mm anti-submarine rocket launchers and 2 Type 726-4 18-tube decoy rocket launchers.

    The stern helicopter deck features a single landing spot for supporting the missions of a medium-size helicopter. The heli-deck is fitted with helicopter handling system and can accommodate a Kamov Ka-28 Helix or a Harbin Z-9C helicopter.

    https://www.navyrecognition.com/ind...4a-p-in-pakistan-built-for-pakistan-navy.html
     
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    really doubt that. there is tonnes of land there, no need to "confiscate" farmland.
    Navy's interest in Khor Kalmat is nothing new, similar efforts were made in the 80s as well, when it was identified as a good site for a Naval base. Navy tried hard to build a road there as well. dont know what came of it.

    Off topic, miani and khor kalmat would serve very well as tourist resorts.

    I dont know much, but wouldnt an airbase at Turbat be too far away? should build one just outside Gwadar to provide proper aircover. Maybe only MPA/MSA will be posted there, and not jets.
     
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    If anything Pakistan acquisitions are never scaled down but rather heavily customized for our needs and in some cases even better than the original. For e.g USAF was so impressed by the package Pakistan selected for it's F16s that it later went for similar package. The writers along with their Indian bafoon buddies are up for a surprise specially on the submarine deal.
     
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    Already naval Air base at turbat
     
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    Actually Turbat is becoming a good security/military area . Naval Base at Turbat already built and FC Balochistan has its new headquarter under the name of FC Balochistan South in Turbat as well ( Maj Gen as head ) . Plus while inaugurating Naval Air Station Turbat PN said that this base can be used by other sister services as well . So now adays approx100km is nothing ( which in Turbat Naval Air Station case is distance from Gawadar ) .
     
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    Source for this?
     
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    This was once mentioned on this very forum by a knowledgeable member. I am sorry I don't have the link.
    @Windjammer can shed more light.
     
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    In my opinion Pakistan instead of going for Type 54 should have worked with China to develop a version of Type 54 which has 40 or even if 32 VLS they are divided in two types. 16 VLS for Cruise Missiles and 16 VLS for Air Defence just like French FREMM Frigate has. That kind of Frigate is the one which we need.
     
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    I think, PN is taking a two pronged approach. The quick induction approach providing assets with a strong punch and to fill in the numbers quickly with the off-the-shelf platform i.e. 054A and the indigenous approach to start with the Tailor made Jinnah class frigates which will also act as a jumping board for our future national frigate programs.

    We would probably be seeing much more design changes as per our requirements to the final Milgem class aka Jinnah Class. Till then 054A's will provide the required punch to counter IN assets. Additionally, if i am not wrong, the 054A's had to be quickly ordered before the PLAN closes its production line.
     
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    100% agree with improving naval capabilities. In fact, I do not agree with the thought that PN should be a littoral (brown water) force. PN at the minimum should be a green-water force, capable of operating in the entire Sindhu Sagar (aka the Arabian Sea and ), Middle Eastern waters, and the much of the Indian Ocean.

    I, however, do disagree with stopping oil and gas flow from Arabia. That's not going to go down well with Gulf states, and we also would not want to tick off the Australians, South Koreans, and the Japanese. Instead, PN should take out Indian ports that receive oil and gas. That would limit the damage exclusively to India. I would also suggest improving ties with the Iranians so we can secure wartime oil and gas supply from them via land route as it is more than likely that the Indians are also going to try and disrupt Pakistan's oil and gas supply via sea.

    Yes. Indo-Pacific is a misplaced and erroneous concept if not dumb, and so is the US-China Mildly-Cold War
     
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    Pakistan does NOT have much of naval capability so its not a threat.