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Pakistani Ballistic Missiles: Indigenous Content & Development

Discussion in 'Pakistan Strategic Forces' started by The Deterrent, Sep 23, 2011.

  1. pakfoj

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    to all those who are talking about "copying" missiles, here is the reality:

    During the end of World War II, the Nazi scientists has invented the first Ballistic missile as we know it. But it was too late for the missile to prove itself because Germany lost. the factories where these missiles were made were captured by the allied forces. Some missiles were taken by Americans and some by Russians. and anything created after that was based on the originals which a lot of u are calling "copy". So Every country has "copied" the same principles from one or another missiles. including France, India, Pakistan, etc.
     
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  2. karan21

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    sorry but u cntg compare the two, yes americans and russsians learnt from german missile but that was the first missile in history.

    but pakistan developed its missiles in late 20 century and now there was a lot of info available and ther was no need to import from china. pakistan could have done it own its own. didnt iran do it?? didnt india do it?? pakistan imported missiles from china and partnered with nk, loll pakistan couldnt find a better partner.
     
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    well first of all when u say that india made it on its own u are mistaken big times what evidence is there that india did not get help from Russia because it did. If I started giving u evidence, it would take me some usefull time which i wont waste trying to explain something sophisticated to a child.. u fail to realize that the basics philosophy stays the same. obviously the missile from outside will look similar to any missile out there in the world. yes there is a lot on info available now so what. Do u expect the military officials to come out and tell u exactly what they have??? you expect them to give you every single detail of the weapons. I suppose u r not a rocket scientist so u have no idea of what kind of technology is used in such missiles and u have no idea whether these missiles are "imported" from china. or America for that matter. Secondly when u say that Pakistan couldn't find a better partner, China is the best partner for Pakistan than any other. to understand Geopolitics you need to be mature and educated, but u r talking like a child. so don't worry about this "sort of stuff", go to bed and dont forget to brush ur teeth. sweet dreams! (and please dont reply, i would feel dumb trying to argue with u)
     
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    So what's the big deal? It's wiser not waste time, effort and money to re-invent the wheel. Even super power America's F-35 isn't indigenous! And America's Space Shuttle isn't too!

    The end product is what counts.

    Cheers!
     
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  5. The Deterrent

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    Of course, after the OBL raid event (May 2, 2011), Pakistan had to delay the tests due to international pressure. Nasr, which was tested 3 days ago, was also dragged into the propaganda of Taliban taking over Pakistan's nukes, specially tactical ones. IMO, thats why Pakistan ended up testing 6 missiles within 90 days this year, after the things settled down a bit.

    Exactly. All I wanted to do was to revisit the CORRECT facts, and try to put an end to all the speculations.
     
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    So every one is copying and improving it thatÂ’s a good thing cost effective brothers and the Americans British Russian copied German Tec not just rockets to hats off the Germans. We are thank full to the china help in missile Tec sharing :china::cheers::pakistan: and indians should thank the Russians to ;)

     
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    Its such a childish thinking to prove something indigenous. If you can make it and it hurts it doesnt matter where you learn to make it. lets assume we copy 100% of some Korean missile and war breaks out and we drop it on india. do you think people hurt in the explosion will say "thank God it wasnt an indigenous missile"
     
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    You are right to say that it doesn't matters in a war, that whose product is indigenous. The only thing that matters is their performance.
    But, analyzing the indigenous efforts helps us to determine the local capabilities and evaluate the possible future developments.
     
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    Well , few years back India captured one North Korea Ship having High end lathe machine for missile and some missile parts, on instance of Peace Talk between USA and NK , India released the ship. but the ship component highly exposed the nature to which indigenous content pak missile have.
     
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    end product matters , how much it serve our needs because we need useful product ............ there is nothing wrong with improving something and make it useful for u...
     
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    any new missile test coming up for pak ?
     
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    pls tell how much thrust is created by raad cruise missile's engine....and can raad also gain height or it keeps gliding downwards once it is released from the airplane....also those small wings on raad....are they enough to generate lift?.........

    also the rocket motor used in raad...is it disposable....like filled in factory or it is filled while it is attached to the plane.....

    also in future can this rocket motor be used on jet ski's and water scooters?
     
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    This thread is about Ballistic missile, Not a cruise missile thread.
     
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    The RAAD is solid fuel missile get filled within the factory. its not liquid fuel......:smokin:
     
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    Rehbar-I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This article claims that Pakistan first entered Rocketery through production on sounding rockets in 1961.
    The well known Polish-Pakistani Airforce officer was one of the pioneers of Pakistan's rocket program,later turned missile program.
     
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