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Pakistan will be most impacted by US, NATO withdrawal from Afghanistan: Senior US military commander

VCheng

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It depends on who you talk. I am not talking about perceptions or narrative here. The ground realities, the facts is what I am after. Lets start with how many Pakistani citizens died in a war which was fought directly against a super power, the soviets, to the one where Pakistan allied and aided the other super power, US, with its occupation of Afghanistan. The economic cost, the infrastructure, Pakistan global image, etc.

Well, Pakistan did not fight a direct war with either USSR or USA. Ever. It was only a useful conduit in both conflicts, that is all.
 

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Well, Pakistan did not fight a direct war with either USSR or USA. Ever. It was only a useful conduit in both conflicts, that is all.

German BND do not agree with you.

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I ask you again. How many Pakistani citizens died in two conflict? The cost of the two war to economy? Pakistan image in the world? What say you ?
 

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I ask you again. How many Pakistani citizens died in two conflict? The cost of the two war to economy? Pakistan image in the world? What say you ?
Do you understand what the word "direct" actually means?

Pakistan was a conduit used by others to further their own national interests in both the conflicts, which were indirect.
 

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Do you understand what the word "direct" actually means?

Pakistan was a conduit used by others to further their own national interests in both the conflicts, which were indirect.
Those "others" were no where to be seen when Afghan war against Soviets started, for whole year!


Again I ask you, How many Pakistani citizens died in two conflict? The cost of the two war to economy? Pakistan image in the world?
 

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Again I ask you, How many Pakistani citizens died in two conflict? The cost of the two war to economy? Pakistan image in the world?
Well, the questions should be answered after establishing who was responsible to taking the decisions that put Pakistan in the situation that it found itself in in both the conflicts. Who decided that Pakistan will participate in the conflicts?
 

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Well, the questions should be answered after establishing who was responsible to taking the decisions that put Pakistan in the situation that it found itself in in both the conflicts. Who decided that Pakistan will participate in the conflicts?
These are not difficult questions to answer, certainly not rocket science.

1) How many Pakistani died during Afghan war against soviet war and then later in afghan war against the yanks?
2) What was the economical cost to Pakistan during these two wars
3) What was the Pakistan image during these two conflicts.

Bear in mind, the first war was in direct conflict with the super power, the second war was in aid of the super power and to help its consolidation of occupation.
 

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These are not difficult questions to answer, certainly not rocket science.

1) How many Pakistani died during Afghan war against soviet war and then later in afghan war against the yanks?
2) What was the economical cost to Pakistan during these two wars
3) What was the Pakistan image during these two conflicts.

Bear in mind, the first war was in direct conflict with the super power, the second war was in aid of the super and to help its consolidation of occupation.
Incorrect. Neither conflict was direct. Pakistan made the decisions to participate as a conduit in both of them. The responsibility for the consequences of the decisions Pakistan made rests with those who made them. Repeating the same incorrect claims will never make them credible.
 

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Pakistan is directly affected by the situation quickly arising in Afghanistan, that is why, we have been trying our best to bring the war to an end, facilitating the warring factions to sit on the negotiating table for peaceful settlement.
US is not sharing any sort of future implications, rather it is directly threatening Pakistan to force it to his terms for final withdrawal to accept. US and India will use their proxies to destabilize Pakistan. Will Pakistan succumb to this pressure at this critical juncture? The chances are very bleak. Pakistan has taken China and Russia on board, to minimise the scope for US to stay here indefinitely.
 

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That is a great idea, but what will the graduates do?
Come for your family so you cannot reproduce further stupidity
Pakistan is openly backing the Afghan-led peace process, it has no ulterior motives. All it wants is peace for Afghanistan, if Afghanistan becomes peaceful, naturally the soft power of Pakistani hospitality will pervade Afghanistan and its future leaders, whoever they may be, will have friendly and mutually beneficial relations with Pakistan.

Only those parties anemic to the above framework may see a hostile reaction.
Agreed but the government goons in kabul will never allow peace because of power hunger
 

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We can make Pakistan great if we can make sure that we have a patriotic and stable government in place. The rest is easy.
The present puppet is not performing, rather disintegrating the whatever unity exists. It has brought down the economy to its knees with its Aristotle experts.
 

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