• Tuesday, May 21, 2019

Pakistan Urges US to Refrain From Attacking Iran

Discussion in 'Strategic & Foreign Affairs' started by Dinky, May 15, 2019 at 3:37 PM.

  1. Thorough Pro

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    Seal our borders with Iran, we can't take an more refugees from another back stabbing nation.

     
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    Ain't nobody happy if Big Daddy ain't happy.

    So what did the Turks do to the Armenians? Or would you rather falsely just look at only part of the picture to serve your biases?
     
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    Big daddy is not who you think it is

    Im glad you got to the point and cut the BS nuance and got straight to the US foreign policy
     
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    There is no BS in what I have said all along.

    International geopolitics may have nuances, but the basic principles are simple, clear, solid and universal.

    USA will pursue its national interests according to those rules, clearly, and it does have the most resources to help it do so.

    I guess that makes it the Big Daddy.

    For now.

    (And of course I respect your right to hold a different opinion, BS or otherwise.)
     
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    It would be better to keep up sanctions and only go to war against Iranian backed/funded militias which are operating outside Iran e.g. in syria, iraq, yemen etc.
     
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    What the Turks did or what they did this not proven, what the Greeks did is proven. Also regarding the Armenians, they did side with the Russians in WW1, so put 1 and 1 together. Muffin
     
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    What the Turks did is not proven? If the Armenians received retribution from the Turks for siding with the Russians, then US retribution for those who attacked it first on 9/11 is just as fair. 1 plus 1, and all that you see, is the same for everyone.
     
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    Explain the the attacks on the native, Mexican, Spanish, vietnamese, Germans (it wasnt something the where involved in but they jumped into it anyways), koreans, iraqi, Libyans, the Hawaiians, Filipinos and so on. Was that all "retribution" because any sane person would classify it as psychotic behavior
     
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    Whataboutery at its finest! :D

    We should also include the Battles of Panipat and the Crusades and much more while we are at it, but what would that have to do with this thread except to further expose your incurable prejudices?

    On topic, Pakistan has already shown itself to be in the Saudi camp against Iran, there is no doubt about it at all.
     
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    Nope, cause those weren't Americans.
     
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    So you want to concentrate ONLY on what the Americans do and ignore what everybody else does according to the same principle of international geopolitics. Pardon me, but your prejudice is showing. :D
     
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    With all due respects you sound like a parrot in every post. Same things. Anyone can see that. Try to get away from cliches a bit?

    For your very kind information, the 'USA' doesn't always follow policies according to it's own interests. Had it been the case then Bill Clinton's 'China is a strategic partner' wouldn't be turned to a 'Strategic Competitor' very quickly after BC. Had it been the case then Obama/Kerry's hard work on Iran wouldn't be undone so rapidly under Trump. Had it been the case, then G.W. Bush/Kerry/Luger relative softness toward Pakistan wouldn't be so quickly turned against Pakistan under Obama, and especially under Trump. Had it been the case, as countless Americans would confirm, then the Tail of the Tiny Israel wouldn't be wagging the Mighty American Dog!

    It's the Lobbies, Stupid! (Not meant for you, personally!).
     
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    No modren other goes around poking everywhere, sweetheart

    He's the type of guy that would lead the charge if the Americans even attacked Pakistan.
     
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    US policy may not be constant, but it ALWAYS serves its national interests. Why do you think Vietnam is now a rising trading partner after being the target of a long war? Similarly with China, it grew as an economy with bilateral trade and is now increasingly behaving in a rogue manner, Hence, the policy needs to change. Similarly, with Iran. There is nothing eternal in international geopolitics.
     
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    No sir. I stand by what I said. American policies are beholden to the Lobbies. A Superpower for Hire! For Israel, read the 2006 study by Stephen and Walt called 'The Israeli Lobby'. Those two professors scientifically identified that Israelis have hijacked American foreign policy damaging American interests. None, except a few Jewish American leaders, can stand up to Israel in America. Why so?!!!

    It's a different matter that the US dominance is so deep and wide that blunders after blunders have still not damaged America too much--yet.

    You think Obama/Kerry's long hard work on Iran based on some calculated American interests only to be undone so quickly by a lunatic like Trump is in American interests? Patriotic Americans, in both Right and Left, know darn well that some Lobbies have undone the Iran deal much to America's own detriment.