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Pakistan successfully tests night launch of surface to surface ballistic missile Ghaznavi: ISPR

Discussion in 'Pakistan Strategic Forces' started by Max, Aug 29, 2019.

  1. Maarkhoor

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    :disagree:
     
  2. PakSword

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    The tweet is to clarify the understanding of your type of people.. that no ABM in current or near future inventory of the neighbor can stop this missile.. Now, why it can't be stopped? you don't have the knowledge.. but if our DG ISPR is saying something.. and tested a seemingly useless missile (even according to Pakistani posters).. just try to understand what he means..

    Why use Anti Radiation Missiles when we have a cheaper alternative available?
     
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  3. Maarkhoor

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    Ballistic missile turns up the heat more, since enemy can't distinguish between nuclear or non-nuclear ballistic missiles, send some radiation missiles to destroy their anti ABM missiles capability then launch B.M....

    B.Ms don't have pinpoint accuracy minus Nasr which have...so better options are against S-400 like threats from air launched anti radiation missiles.
     
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  4. PakSword

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    loll.. USA hasn't tried yet.. You think USA doesn't have any counter to S-400?

    By the way, other than S-400, your Air Defense failed on 27th of February.. and shot its own helicopter..

    There are many ways to counter your air defense systems.. This is one of the many.. and the easiest one in my opinion.. unless you want to install your ABMs at more than 300 kms away.. which will reduce their effectiveness quite significantly..

    See, war is not a bachon ka khel.. that you have one weapon you can use as a trump card.. come to reality.. you are not facing Sri Lanka or Bangladesh, or Nepal.. and you are not surrounding our forces this time like you guys did in 1971 thousands of kms away.

    What I understand from the press release.. this missile is meant for ABMs to be honest.. I think Pakistan will use them first... if they fail then Anti Radiation Missiles will come into effect.. but lets see..
     
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  5. PakSword

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    Business my friend business.. Turkey is a NATO nation and US doesn't want Turkey to buy anything significant and expensive from Russia...

    Itni asaan baat tumhain samajh nahi aati pyaray?
     
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    probably tested in GPS denied scenario using celestial-inertial guidance systems .... in this case exhibition of night launch capability and successful destruction of target is a commendable success.
     
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    Can you plz educate us on the reason?
     
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    Fully agree.. that's why I am not overjoyed.. I am taking this news bit by bit.. not disappointed at all like other Pak posters and not too much over joyed like Gangu telis.. That's why I have mentioned the possibility of failure and brought Anti Radiation Missiles (as mentioned by @Maarkhoor ) into perspective..

    Gangus think that by having S-400, they have the trump card.. not just on this forum, when I spoke to them last year when the deal was being finalized, they were overjoyed like anything.. saying now PAF can't come within 400 kms of the border.. lolll

    Not just that, they possess Israeli systems and these were active on 27th February.. and also they were saying PAF can't come within 300 kms of LoC because they have SU 30.. PAF went in.. spent some time... came back took down two of their jets.. took one pilot... made their Israeli AD system think that the poor heli was wrecking havoc, killed that in return..

    Ja bhaee lagalay S-400 aur usi tarah uchal jaisay tum log SU 30 le ke uchaltay thay.. Jab wohi S-400 morr ke andar deingay hum tou baat karaingay.. don't waste my time now.. I trust my DG ISPR..
     
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    Can you please explain how celestial-inertial guidance system works?
     
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    If you stay low S-400 radar range will reduce more then a half, and we have alternate option too, Ra'ad/Babur, terrain following cruise missiles and remember bro S-400 anti cruise missile capability is only 40 km, in future may be we able to get harpy like suicide drones that's clone by China @Sharab Shaks
     
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  11. LeGenD

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    Welcome development. :tup::tup:

    For critics:-

    Ghaznavi is a TBM.

    TBM = Theatre Ballistic Missile

    TBMs are suitable for attacking high value targets near the border including military bases, armed garrisons, grid stations and command & communications infrastructure.

    Please keep in mind that in the domain of DEFENSE, bigger is not always better or an answer to every manner of challenge out there. Every type of weapon have its share of qualities and limitations.

    MRBMs are suitable for attacking distant targets and would be useless at close quarters operational situations.

    As for testing in nighttime conditions, this is an important consideration because nighttime conditions are ideal for evaluating the accuracy and effectiveness of sensor systems involved. Secondly, military operations can be expected in nighttime conditions so 'weapons in focus' should be able to deliver meaningful results in nighttime conditions.

    Regarding penetration possibilities, TBMs present a very short window for a potential intercept and India most likely does not have sufficient defensive arrangements in its arsenal to neutralize TBMs in operationally relevant situations.

    Credible defenses against TBMs are 'very expensive' to procure in large numbers; India will have to spend a huge sum of money for this end alone. In case YOU might have noticed, Indian defense budget is not close to that of China, not even close to that of Saudi Arabia; Indian arms procurement procedures are exceedingly bureaucratic and slow, so we can rest easy.
     
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    AAFREEN - Bohat AALA :tup: :tup: :tup:
     
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    its a combination of inertial and celestial guidance and work as backup systems in case GPS signals are denied
    for basic understanding read these links 1(read item number: 16.5.2.2 from the link), 2
     
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    On the contrary, this test proved new parameters, and has nothing to do with earlier tests.
     
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  15. The Eagle

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    The thread is full of information in tid bits through different posts... all you need to do is go through the posts discussing various factors of this Night Test.
     
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