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Pakistan seeks support for UNSC seat, US Opposes

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  1. IndoCarib

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    NEW DELHI: In another 10 days, Pakistan will be asking for votes from 192 countries for a two-year seat in the UN Security Council for 2012-2014, and despite an easy field, it anticipates difficulties, not from India, but the US.

    In ordinary circumstances, Pakistan would have had it fairly easy. This year too, the opposition field looks weak enough. Fiji, which was a claimant for the Asian seat, withdrew recently in favour of Pakistan. Pakistan now has only one opposing candidate, Kyrgyzstan. A tiny country, Kyrgyzstan has barely 20 missions in the world and should not pose any real threat to Pakistan.

    Sources say Pakistan should have little problem getting the required 128 votes from the UN General Assembly. But a number of Pakistanis are unsure, because many believe the US is propping up the opposition against Pakistan.

    India will support Kyrgyzstan, under a reciprocal deal reached with Bishkek during India's own lobbying for a non-permanent seat in 2010. The deal apart, Indians and Pakistanis generally get along fairly well at multilateral institutions, except when it comes to issues like Kashmir. On many global issues, India and Pakistan not only vote with each other, but also support each other. During India's vote, Pakistan did not say that it had supported India, yet many Indian diplomats said they had seen the Pakistani ballot paper with "India" written on it. India won with a massive 187 votes.

    Munir Akram, who represented Pakistan as UN ambassador several times, wrote on Sunday that India's opposition would have little effect on Pakistan's chances. But he suspects that the US may be trying to nix Pakistan's chances in the UN Security Council. "At the UN, most astute observers are convinced that the Kyrgyz bid has been encouraged, if not inspired, by the US. It is reasoned that the US does not want Pakistan to have a seat on the Security Council during the critical endgame in Afghanistan or to provide it a platform to raise difficult issues... Unlike India, the US has the influence to significantly complicate Pakistan's bid for the Security Council seat. Some years ago, Africa's endorsed candidate, Sudan, was defeated by the last-minute US-sponsored candidature of Mauritius."

    Kyrgyzstan does not set the UN on fire, though they apparently have a large delegation working the diplomatic network in Turtle Bay. But this year, Pakistan is not on the global favourite list -- hosting Osama bin Laden and its overt reluctance to give up terrorism as an instrument of state policy does not help matters for Islamabad. Yet Kyrgyzstan has refused to give up its candidature for Pakistan, and promised to see this battle through to the bitter end. Surprised, many Pakistanis believe the responsibility for this could lie with the US.

    Akram noted the US had yet to support Pakistan publicly, though Indian diplomats say that could change in the days ahead. US has a key base in Manas, Kyrgyzstan, which is used for the war in Afghanistan. America is also expanding activities in the tiny Central Asian country.


    Pakistan tries for UN Security Council, faces unexpected block, but not from India - The Times of India
     
  2. DESERT FIGHTER

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    Lol... F,,king 2 faced USA... strategic dialogue.. we wat to work with Pakistan... and on testing times.. oppose us ... like always... I spit on them..
     
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    No we want India in UN to keep watching us sitting in UN permanant seat :lol:
     
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    this is called ALLY? Fvck You, the US.
     
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    What benefit will pakistan or Kyrgyzstan get if they become non permanent member of security council??
     
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    Yet another evidence for US being dual natured...
     
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    None whatsoever, all they can do is count the vetoes.
     
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    well given the current tide in bilateral relations and given U.S.'s more-than-fair-share of say in the UN system itself it's hard to see U.S. being in favour of Pakistan's seat @ the UNSC though at the same time there may be some policy circles in Washington and NYC who would be in favour of it since having even a 2 year seat comes with certain 'expectations' and perhaps they'd use it as a bargaining tool of sorts.

    regardless of the outcome, Pakistan's leaders/diplomats and political elite need to do a better job of projecting a better image of Pakistan (through soft power) but also need to be more overly-assertive in making its standpoints on certain issues (especially with regards to our policies and concerns in the region) more heard and more pronounced. . . that requires more seasoned and energetic individuals
     
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    Pakistan seeks support for UNSC seat

    Pakistani foreign minister Hina Rabbani Khar has sought support from the global community for her country's candidature for a non-permanent seat on the UN Security Council.

    "Pakistan is at your service, and I request your most valuable support for our candidature," Khar said at the 66th session of the UN General Assembly on Monday.

    Pakistan will actively work to advance the world's shared goals of promoting peace, harmony and security if elected, Pakistan's official APP news agency quoted her as saying.

    Pakistan and Kyrgyzstan are contesting for the Asian seat on the 15-member council being vacated by Lebanon. The election will take place on October 21.

    The 193-member General Assembly holds elections for non-permanent members by a secret ballot. Khar reaffirmed Pakistan's commitment to the principles enshrined in the UN Charter as she focused on her country's role in UN peacekeeping missions around the world.

    "Till date more than 100,000 Pakistani peacekeepers have participated in 38 peacekeeping missions around the world and 125 Pakistani blue helmets have laid down their lives in the service of humanity.

    "As a caring member of the international community, we have maintained this high-level of deployment despite domestic constraints arising from the ongoing fight against terrorism," she said at the gathering.

    Pakistan seeks support for UNSC seat
     
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    haha still hanging with non-permanent membership.they elcected us for non-permanent membership for 12 times and now we are sick of that so we are searching for permanent membership and 187 out of 190 support us
     
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    Ms.Khar, Serve your country first and foremost

    That is the greatest help you can ever do to mankind.

    Others are more than capable of looking after themselves.
     
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    I support Miss Khar :cheesy:.
    Will that count ?
     
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    What kinda bullsh!t is this? Promoting peace, harmony and security? Like 'bleeding India with a thousand cuts' and screwing American forces in Afghanistan with the help of terror organizations like the Haqqanis, LeT, JeM etc? Pakistan must put its money where its mouth is and banish terrorism emanating from its soil and stop sponsoring these Yahoos, which Kayani himself says are his 'strategic assets'!

    This is hypocrisy at its best!
     
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    Pakistan and India have served in the UNSC for almost the same amount of years.

    ---------- Post added at 08:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:56 AM ----------

    Where are the questions about India's own candidature when asking for the UNSC permanent seat on one hand and burying murdered Kashmiris in Mass graves on the other?
     
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    Support you for permanent membership? No, they voted for your NON-permanent membership.

    Anyway, you require the unanimous support of all the P5 nations to get it passed. If even one P5 member gives anything less than full support (i.e. abstains), then it's over. Too bad you made an enemy out of China then. :azn:

    http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter18.shtml
     
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