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  1. BHarwana

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    Bro I don't know. The document is of Conventional Submarine orders already placed. It says Pakistan placed an order for 3 Submarine to German Shipyard & delivery date is between 2018 to 2020. At the end they say this info is unconfirmed. So either we placed orders silently or Saab is speculating so both ways it was worth sharing so posted it.
     
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    @Bilal Khan (Quwa) your thoughts? Pakistan’s interest in the German boats were during Musharraf era, any interest now will be significant and shows PN never gave up on the U-Boats.
     
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    Likely in reference to those negotiations (late 2000s/early 2010s). No deal was signed with Germany.
     
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    These Type 21 should be scrapped Asap.
     
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    They are and in due time all shall be put to rest, one has to do it in a systematic way not just because want them to be !!
     
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    They will be once their replacements arrive.
     
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    That will be 4 Type-54A/P

    But I think there's a potential get additional 2 Type-54 from PLAN fleet and get it upgraded to similar Type-54A/P standards. I'm sure if PN negotiates on that it will join PN service with other 4 Type-54A/P in 2021.
     
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    Problem is, theyd be quite expensive to refit. You'd literally need to strip most, if not, ALL of its current radars, cut into the hull to add VLS, it also uses a different engine type so that wont be very fun for maintenance crews and well, if we decided to use them as is, they're not very different to our Zulfiqar Class, which in all honesty, is a pretty poor ship, atleast, in terms of self defence. As far as i know, the HQ-7/FM-90 cannot target AShM's so the F-22P's rely on their CIWS to eliminate AShM's which in the age of the BrahMos threat, is not a great idea. The best idea would be to look into more 054A/P's and sell our F-22P's on to finance some more Jinnah Class frigates if we look at an unrealistic best case scenario.
     
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    I guess refit for Type-54 might be something else. Let's see.

    Nobody will buy our F-22Ps. F-22Ps can easily fulfill the purpose of a large corvette role.
     
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    There was a news regarding PN working on its own Midget design amd manfacturing....
    Was it a pure speculation or does it hold some weight?
     
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    Bangladesh did buy old 053H3's from China, the ship the F22P is based off, we could easily find a customer for said ships, i.e a lower budget navy or whatnot, however, they do make a reasonable force multiplier, perhaps we should consider equipping them with the FL-2000N or a similar system for them to actually be able to defend themselves.


    It does hold some weight, it was in the 2018 MoDP yearbook that a design had been completed.
     
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    In one modp report 2013/14 one to type 21 was supposed to be decommissioned from navy referb/refitted and commissioned in pmsa

    I am assuming it will be supported by converting other ship of the type converted to spares

    Not sure if it happened or idea was dropped
     
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    which begs the question why PAF didnt opt for RAM(chinese eq fl-3000) for type 54
     
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    The 054A/P shouldn't really need it. The HHQ-16 is the first line of defense against AShM's, if im not mistaken, they even have quite a high probability of kill. They are the main defense, for point defense we have the Type 730 CIWS, together, both of those systems should be sufficient to take out any incoming threats, the FL-3000 would have added cost and weight unnecessarily when most likely, it would be hard for incoming AShM's to get past the first layer of defense, i.e the HHQ-16
     
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    Live Weapon Firing from PNS ALAMGIR [USS McInerney FFG-8, Oliver Hazard Perry class] 25-4-2020
    PNS ALAMGIR [LIVE WEAPON FIRING] 25-4-2020[ec].jpg
     
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