• Tuesday, December 12, 2017

Pakistan mocks Sushma Swaraj for issuing medical visas, calls it 'Indian gimmickry'

Discussion in 'Social & Current Events' started by Kuru, Nov 24, 2017.

  1. protest

    protest FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    876
    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2012
    Ratings:
    +0 / 813 / -1
    So she shouldn't respond on twitter to your countrymen plight. May be you should ask your patients not to quote Sushma on twitter. Obviously, she's not the one contacting them.
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2017
  2. kris

    kris FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    830
    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2016
    Ratings:
    +0 / 342 / -0
    Country:
    India
    Location:
    India
    No other country person will be subject to scrutiny as much as a Pakistani

    No one,
    You got it wrong.

    You have to take letter from your country that you will return back

    True.
    Agreed
     
  3. Kuru

    Kuru FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    248
    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2017
    Ratings:
    +0 / 277 / -0
    Country:
    India
    Location:
    India
    May be they are trying to make a friendly environment so that we don't have to keep on fighting? Why not think this way, Max?

    I never said Pakistan lacks such facilities. It's just that we do it in a very low price and that makes us an attractive destination for those in need. Like I explained before, we don't intend to advertise it, but even if we do it (hypothetically) then I don't see anything wrong in it. Every country has a right to market its good deeds. If this also helps to create a good environment for peace, then why not ?

    Agree, hopefully this will happen in the next 5 years, all the best :-)
    The bold part wasn't required. Let's be civil, I insist.

    I don't know the number of visa applications, honestly. But I can assure you that such gestures are going to help us in the long run. You do something for me, I do something for you. We become friends and try to forget what went wrong in the past. Now if this is happening, how is this wrong Max? Why call it a "political gimmick" and try to downplay the actual intentions behind it? I'm sorry but shouldn't I term it as Ehsaan Faramoshi?
     
  4. B2B

    B2B FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    346
    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2016
    Ratings:
    +0 / 284 / -1
    Country:
    India
    Location:
    India
    That is a misnomer
    Good health to your son , you made all "fathers" feel special.

    China has no standout medicare western system compared to India or Pakistan for that matter. Chinese since long has been dependent on traditional medicine and are yet to come out of that halo.

    In healthcare China is nowhere closer to its smaller neighboring countries leave alone India.
     
  5. AnnoyingOrange

    AnnoyingOrange BANNED

    Messages:
    4,133
    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Ratings:
    +1 / 6,190 / -27
    Country:
    India
    Location:
    India
    Whoever reaches out to her on twitter is replied on twitter... Pakistanis are needlessly riled up over everything Indian these days.... if you guys could not crate good medical services in 7 decades and you still rely upon other countries for some treatments, is that India's fault.....
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  6. Kuru

    Kuru FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    248
    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2017
    Ratings:
    +0 / 277 / -0
    Country:
    India
    Location:
    India
    So the one who's helping is doing a drama but the ones who are ASKING for help are saints ? Wow. I love how some guys have an ability to spin things.
     
  7. captainvancouver

    captainvancouver BANNED

    Messages:
    177
    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2012
    Ratings:
    +0 / 157 / -7
    Country:
    India
    Location:
    Canada
    Maybe Pakistan should ban their citizens from going to India for medical. What's a few dead Pakistani children for the sake of pride.
     
  8. B2B

    B2B FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    346
    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2016
    Ratings:
    +0 / 284 / -1
    Country:
    India
    Location:
    India
    I am present in the private healthcare system in India for long enough and actively associated with groups such as Columbia ASIA , Parkway , Aster and NMC.

    The Pakistanis on this thread are either teenagers who are yet to grow a beard or cocoon bred , their logic defies every possible argument put forth. We regularly get lot of patients from the middle-east , including UAE , SAUDI , BARAIN , QATAR where big Indian groups like NMC and Aster sway fort. Why is that the case ? They have state of the art facilities nor their is shortage of money?

    Secondly the growth of one sector benefits growth of many , healthcare should not be looked at alone , Indian prowess in IT , Pharma has benefited healthcare to a large extent which goes unnoticed. Indian IT industry is now exporting HIS ( brands like seven hills , insta , HISAI ) globally in numbers. The integration of IT into healthcare is unmatched anywhere and this coming from me who has worked actively in the UK and western world with western medicine.

    The potential and sphere of Indian influence in healthcare within Asia can only be matched by Singapore and Japan and no other country would even come close in the next 5 decades.

    If the Indian government or any of its ministers markets the same or plays a little showbiz where is the problem.

    ( PS : I want to remind this stupid logic of healthcare is a noble profession , this-that non-sense, its a business , we pay taxes at commercial rates , we answer to consumer courts , we are liable to be scrutinized , its a business like any other with impending issues , faults and malpractices and Indian excellence in this unparalleled in Asia and Pakistan better live with this reality than moan and gloat over it . )
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 2
  9. Areesh

    Areesh ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    26,389
    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2010
    Ratings:
    +21 / 41,115 / -30
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Many asking help are fake accounts. And those who are genuine pay for their healthcare.
     
  10. Suriya

    Suriya BANNED

    Messages:
    872
    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2017
    Ratings:
    +1 / 1,046 / -6
    Country:
    India
    Location:
    India
    what is in human is killers of 300 Indian in 26/11 Mumbai terror attack is roaming free in pakistan .

    What is in human is the most wanted Indian criminal/terrorists Dawood Ibrahim is living in luxury in karachi , pakistan .

    What is in human pak sponsored terrriosim and insurgency has claimed lives of thousands of indians in kashmir, punjab and else where .

    After all these, if india is still giving medical VISAs to Pakistani patients ,it is not only human but godly .
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  11. Kuru

    Kuru FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    248
    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2017
    Ratings:
    +0 / 277 / -0
    Country:
    India
    Location:
    India
    You know this is the problem. You guys flatly DENY the reality then how a debate can take place ?

    BTW not only genuine patients, ALL of them pay for their healthcare, no one is doing any charity here. It's just that they save a lot of money if they do it here in India and one must accept that there's nothing wrong in saving money?
     
  12. B2B

    B2B FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    346
    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2016
    Ratings:
    +0 / 284 / -1
    Country:
    India
    Location:
    India
    Hi Areesh

    I believe she can afford to do one big drama because the average Indian toiled their hard *** to achieve something substantial, can Pakistan substantiate that effort in this field before mocking ?
     
  13. BABA AGHORI

    BABA AGHORI FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,229
    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2015
    Ratings:
    +0 / 1,495 / -9
    Country:
    India
    Location:
    Germany
    I totally agree with you on this. There is no point of issuing when people are not grateful atall.
     
  14. Imran Khan

    Imran Khan PDF VETERAN

    Messages:
    35,898
    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Ratings:
    +29 / 62,789 / -33
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    so you want costumers to be grateful of seller ? wow baba ji its not for free people pay to get treatment . i will be grateful if sushma say come we treat you for free just let in get treat and walk away .
     
  15. BABA AGHORI

    BABA AGHORI FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,229
    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2015
    Ratings:
    +0 / 1,495 / -9
    Country:
    India
    Location:
    Germany
    Yes, when a person is in need of a life-saving treatment at an affordable cost... which is actually a responsibility of his own nation.
    Now of seller and buyer logic.
    Every product and services come terms and conditions. If according to current terms and conditions medical visa is rejected or put on hold and you need some preferences or favors then Please bend the back and request. Else you are free to go and get it done anywhere else in the world.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1