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hussain0216

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This myopic India centric foreign policy might cost you dearly in the decades going ahead
Nothing myopic about it, our neighbor is a 1.4 BILLION hindutva extremist state who is targeting Indian Muslims and Islam and has occupied Kashmir and you think we should or can afford to ignore it?

Let me tell you Pakistan is a heavily armed state and always planning and trying to improve, just because China or others can take advantage of this against India is your problem not ours

All India had to do 70 years ago was not occupy a Muslim majority state like Kashmir and create endless fassad and conflict in South Asia
And you know what all South Asia would be behind India united by common culture, language and history


But you didn't and this is the consequence and now we are a heavily armed state with one of the strongest militaries in the world armed with nuclear warheads right on your doorstep to target you in any and every way.
The world will support Pakistan everytime Indias aspirations need controlling just like China is
 

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What do you even mean by slaves? slow down little bit. No arab hold Pakistan territories nor is there an Arab as the president of Pakistan. It is called politics and diplomacy. Don't take some garbage article without any sources as fact or what is truly happening behind the scenes. Pakistan actully recently signed defense treaty with Oman. Pakistan actully has 3000 forces deployed inside Saudi Arabia as we speak. It is in Pakistan's foreign policy interest lets put the brakes on such offensive rhetoric and slow things down and let rationality take hold. Pakistan is just to powerful for any country to claim sovereignity over it. Pakistan has deployed these forces for it's own interests and future goals if the Arabs were the fail the security responsbility Pakistan will take charge
What are you going on about? They whole population is mentally a slave of saudis. Birader Islam mulk. This is the rhetoric I have been hearing for decades and the Birader Islam mulk is a pawn of Israel.time to show two fingers to saudis
 

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50 years from now on when i look at pakistan i would think "damm this is what xinjiang would look like if it had brown people"
 

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Pakistan's best bet for development is amicable relationship with India. Trade becomes much simpler with shared cultural, ethnic, linguistic, religious and historical commonalities. It will be tough to convince India as much as forces within Pakistan but there is really no other way if Pakistan really wants not be excessively dependent on any other country.
Indians are too ugly.
 

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Your dependency on China is cringworthy
your holding on to their coat tails like without them you will.just capitulate.
it's sad your nation of 220 million souls yet you look to one nation to constantly protect you so you don't feel vulnerable
India centric physce is scary and deep rooted inferiority complex,
 

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Your dependency on China is cringworthy
your holding on to their coat tails like without them you will.just capitulate.
it's sad your nation of 220 million souls yet you look to one nation to constantly protect you so you don't feel vulnerable
India centric physce is scary and deep rooted inferiority complex,
Lol, your country with one of the largest armed forces in the world has to rely for security on a minute Zionist state must be a matter of pride for you and your warlords promising a two front war end up waving a piece of missile and crying to US must require confidence that would have put Iraq's comical Ali in shade.
While Bharti Basanti is jumping beds from Mr Moscow to Uncle Sam to Dinga Dinga Aron, Pakistan sticks to the principals of strategic allies.
Remember BAT on LOC .......CLUBS on LAC.
 

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Yankees choose India as cannon fodder against China and Pakistan.
While China is not silly, we need Pakistan-China alliance to balance India.
Actually all South Asia counties want other great power together to balance India. An India hegemony in South Asia is against All South Asia counties interest.

All South Asia countries knew India inherit British foreign policy, Divide and Rule, so they must group together to counter India pressure and influence.

As long as Pakistan-China alliance exist, India can only bad mouth but can't do anything significant.
There is nothing that prevents India-China alliance in the future. UK and France patched up after centuries of quarreling
Germany and France patched up. The world moves on.
America has the advantage of Pakistan not being in its backyard. China however shares a border with us.
That does not prevent India-China friendly relationship
It hasn't for the last 50 years and unlikely for another 100 Years. India is more likely to be dumped by US for it's Nazis policies.
There is nothing permanent about friendships and enemies in international relationships. Only interests matter.
In the past UK and France patched up after centuries of quarreling. Germany and France patched up. The world moves on.
 

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LMAO thats why they were pressuring us, banning us for visas, and calling for the loan back. I could care less about the Arab World.
Not there fault as we have done in the past consistently so expecting it again this time was obvious. Asking for money was to put pressure but once loan paid back they realized their mistakes of not seeing changing Pakistan. There was no visa ban from Saudis, deporting some people for over staying is a regular things not just a recent event. So, now they are coming back, Pakistan Army is still there. Indian as usual try to take advantage of it by sending their own lame Army chief who was not even presented an Army salute by Saudi Army chief and ended his lame visits without even meeting any Saudi officials...These idiots think they can replace Pakistan Army, who would ask the protection of loosing Army and replace a winning Army.
 

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One of these days China will dump Pakistan just like America did
Did NATO dump US or visa versa?
are you sure it was America who dumped Pakistan or Pakistan dumped America!!
China Pakistan Alliance is just as old as NATO, both countries trust each other than any other country, China needs Pakistan as much as Pakistan needs China. our defense now is as integrated as nato and Russia is trying to be a part of it.....other world power centers are shaking, so talking about it on forums is an obvious thing to do when you cannot do anything practically. So, Pakistan dumped America as now it was the time to announce openly the China Pakistan strategic Alliance "Together we fight" as was shown in 21 day Shaheen 9 exercises concluded Dec 31st.
 

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Did NATO dump US or visa versa?
are you sure it was America who dumped Pakistan or Pakistan dumped America!!
China Pakistan Alliance is just as old as NATO, both countries trust each other than any other country, China needs Pakistan as much as Pakistan needs China. our defense now is as integrated as nato and Russia is trying to be a part of it.....other world power centers are shaking, so talking about it on forums is an obvious thing to do when you cannot do anything practically. So, Pakistan dumped America as now it was the time to announce openly the China Pakistan strategic Alliance "Together we fight" as was shown in 21 day Shaheen 9 exercises concluded Dec 31st.
No one in America whines about Pakistan. I cannot say the same for Pakistan
Tell us why China needs Pakistan if India is friendly towards it
 
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No one in America whines about Pakistan. I cannot say the same for Pakistan
Tell us why China needs Pakistan if India is friendly towards it
China would welcome India as a ally with open arms .
the world's biggest commercial market. the world's fifth largest GDP and country in need of massive infrastructure and commerce investment. India would match China dollar for dollar in investment. the huge indian Ocean area which is making chinease ships vulnerable would be see friendly ports and a powerful.indian navy providing additional protection.
a India China voice United is five times more power full.over China pak alliance
cpec would suddenly look viable instead of dead weight it appears now

but usa is all over India and China will get no look in
Lol, your country with one of the largest armed forces in the world has to rely for security on a minute Zionist state must be a matter of pride for you and your warlords promising a two front war end up waving a piece of missile and crying to US must require confidence that would have put Iraq's comical Ali in shade.
While Bharti Basanti is jumping beds from Mr Moscow to Uncle Sam to Dinga Dinga Aron, Pakistan sticks to the principals of strategic allies.
Remember BAT on LOC .......CLUBS on LAC.

we are well aware of your principles,
like hiding Osama bin Laden whilst pretending to help find war on terror and steal billions in grant aid. the world remembers,as does usa.
Israel is indian ally a powerful intelligent race that can smash any country to pieces when it desires.
they are a superb military brilliant trained with enviable skill and record victories
 

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There is nothing that prevents India-China alliance in the future. UK and France patched up after centuries of quarreling
Germany and France patched up. The world moves on.


That does not prevent India-China friendly relationship


There is nothing permanent about friendships and enemies in international relationships. Only interests matter.
In the past UK and France patched up after centuries of quarreling. Germany and France patched up. The world moves on.
Only naive people would believe China would like an alliance with India.
What China needs is a weak India as it's today. What US needs is a weak China. Nothing new.

Germany and France are very small power, they have zero possibility to be hegemony. They have to make alliance otherwise they are nobody anymore.

While China and US are in completely different category. Both have enough resource, manpower, territory to be an independent great/super power. Both are self sustained, independent.

This difference means US doesn't tolerate great power as neighbor, China won't neither.

India either win her position by fighting back, or keep being a minor power, a lame duck as it's today.
 
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