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PAKISTAN LHC judge hails army’s role in ending Faizabad sit-in

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  1. The Eagle

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    LHC judge hails army’s role in ending Faizabad sit-in
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    ByAbid Khan
    Posted on November 28, 2017


    LAHORE: Justice Lahore High Court (LHC) Qazi Muhammad Amin on Tuesday hailed role Pakistan Army played to peacefully end the Faizabad sit-in saying that the army chief rescued the country from a huge catastrophe.

    “Pakistan Army is doing great job. God knows how many people would have fallen dead, had army not played its role,” Justice Qazi Muhammad Amin said resuming hearing on the recovery of Deputy Secretary General Majlis-e-Wahdat-e-Muslimeen Syed Nasir Abbas Sherazi who went missing in Lahore earlier this month.

    During the hearing, the LHC judge expressed immense displeasure over government’s failure to recover Sherazi.

    LAHORE: Justice Lahore High Court (LHC) Qazi Muhammad Amin on Tuesday hailed role Pakistan Army played to peacefully end the Faizabad sit-in saying that the army chief rescued the country from a huge catastrophe.

    “Pakistan Army is doing great job. God knows how many people would have fallen dead, had army not played its role,” Justice Qazi Muhammad Amin said resuming hearing on the recovery of Deputy Secretary General Majlis-e-Wahdat-e-Muslimeen Syed Nasir Abbas Sherazi who went missing in Lahore earlier this month.

    During the hearing, the LHC judge expressed immense displeasure over government’s failure to recover Sherazi.

    Nasir Abbas’s brother, Ali Abbas apprised the court that his brother had moved court to disqualigy Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah over controversial remarks against Justice Baqir Najfi. He blamed Rana Sanaullah for invovlvement in kidnapping of Nasir Abbas and sought from the court to issue orders for his release.

    Police told the court that several raids were carried out in search of Sherazi.

    READ MORE: ALL FACTS ABOUT ISLAMABAD SIT-IN TO BE PLACED BEFORE SENATE: ZAFARUL HAQ
    Col Ahmed of Military Intelligence appeared before the court and told that Sherazi was not in MI’s custody.

    The court directed intelligence agencies to work in collaboration to recover the deputy secy MWM.

    “We are aware of potential of our intelligence agencies and it’s not a big deal for them to recover Sherazi.”

    The judge lauded army and security agencies for rendering countless sacrifices for the sake of peace in the country.

    The presiding judge also expressed chafe over the harsh tone adopted by the government against the judiciary.

    “The ministers should learn how to respect the judiciary,” he said.

    The case has been adjourned till December 4.
     
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  2. Syed.Ali.Haider

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    It would be enlightening to hear the Honorable Judge provide the legal basis for the role that the Army played for the rest of us.
     
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    You can file a petition if you are not going to find out by yourself.
     
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  4. Syed.Ali.Haider

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    It's okay. Let others figure that out for themselves. :D
     
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    Pakistani law is essentially arrived from colonial era laws. Therefore I cite British law which I am sure will have it's reflection in Pakistan.

    Military Aid to the Civil Authorities. ... Military support may be provided to civil law enforcement agencies, such as the police or Border Force, in the maintenance of law, order and public safety using specialist capabilities or equipment beyond that of civil powers.4 Aug 2016


    https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...he-civil-authorities-for-activities-in-the-uk


     
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  6. Irfan Baloch

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    it it wont help with your heart burn due to this statement would it?

    these GHQ boys evoke same reactions among TTP and some liberals
     
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    It's a Red Revolution and the judge is one of the Bolsheviks.
     
  8. Syed.Ali.Haider

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    Sir, this revolution is Green. :D

    Any PPI class drug will work quite nicely. :D
     
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    On another note something to muse over. The British planted many institutions in what is now Pakistan during their rule. PWD, police, civil service, revenue service, judiciary, army, education department etc, etc. They left in 1947. Since then we have been reshaping these foreign saplings planted on our soil by the British and making them more 'desi'. Which of these institutions is the least 'desified' and which is most 'desified'?

    *I am using the word desified as a synonym for 'nativized


    With respect do try to differantiate between liberals and sellouts. The two are not necesserily mutual. Indeed liberals can often be more patriotic then religioius zealots who subscribe to trans-national supra-state concept - the ummah and their loyalties often collide with national priorties of a state like Pakistan. TTP is classic example.
     
  10. Syed.Ali.Haider

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    Yes, but this recent event is a long long way short of the Potemkin in its foretelling impact. This will soon fade from the national memory.
     
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    What about remarks of IHC Justise Siddiqui :D

    Jinko siyasat ka shoq hai Fauj choor k siyasat me aai
     
  12. Irfan Baloch

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    I agree
    my rant was specific to a certain elitist breed. sellouts of not, their claim to fame is mainly hatred towards what defines us as ordinary Pakistanis.

    thanks but on the other hand you will see the remarks of the Islamabad High court judge very lets say
    refreshing

    he has pretty much summarized what your impressiveness and her lordship Asma Jahangir and his holiness Naraz sherif has to say about the boys.

    read this out it will give a hard on to anyone who has his her axe to grind against the Pindi boys


    During the hearing, Justice Siddiqui said soldiers who are inclined towards politics should turn in their weapons, asking if the protests would have continued as they did if the army's headquarters had been located near the Faizabad Interchange.

    "Where is their Radd-ul-Fasaad now? Did they not see any Fasaad (anarchy) in this protest?" Justice Siddiqui asked, referring to a military operation that was launched in February.

    The judge remarked that
    this was proof of the 'military's involvement'.

    He told Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal that the administration has the right to call in the army to control an emergency situation and that the military is bound to comply.

    The minister told the court that during the protests and the operation in Islamabad, the country's internal security was at risk. "Security officials were being attacked everyday. Motorways, railways and cities were being closed."

    "There was a conspiracy to show that a nuclear-state was failing. The agreement was reached with the protesters to bring the country out of those circumstances," said Iqbal, referring to the 'successful negotiations' with leaders of the demonstration late Sunday night.

    The judge asked why the agreement did not carry the signatures of the chief commissioner and the IG.

    "Iqbal sahab, you have embarrassed the police and the administration," Justice Siddiqui said. "You [the institutions] are destroying the state in your bid to make each other look bad."

    "What role did the Rangers fulfill?" he asked.
    "You are supporting the impression that the army is the cure for all illnesses."

    This is not just an issue of Khadim Hussain Rizvi, the judge said, referring to the religious leader spearheading the TLY sit-in.

    The IHC judge, while declaring his love for the Holy Prophet (PBUH), said that these remarks could
    cost him his life or add him to the list of missing persons'.

    The judge tasked Barrister Zafarullah with filing a report on the incident. "He will tell us in 10 days what happened, where and when," the judge said.
     
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    In ‘Democracy’ / civilized society, it is the elected gov’t that makes the decisions; not a non-elected pressure group nor the army brass. It is a pity that Justice of the Lahore High court in ignorant of the Pakistan Constitution.
    According to Pakistan’s Constitution role of the military is:

    Article: 245 Functions of Armed Forces

    245. Functions of Armed Forces.- 1[(1)] The Armed Forces shall, under the directions of the Federal Government, defend Pakistan against external aggression or threat of war, and, subject to law, act in aid of civil power when called upon to do so.

    (2) The validity of any direction issued by the Federal Government under clause (1), shall not be called in question in any Court.

    (3) A High Court shall not exercise any jurisdiction under Article 199 in relation to any area in which the Armed Forced of Pakistan are, for the time being, acting in aid of civil power in pursuance of Article 245:

    Provided that this clause shall not be deemed to affect the jurisdiction of the High Court in respect of any proceeding pending immediately before the day on which the Armed Forces start acting in aid of civil power.

    (4) Any proceeding in relation to an area referred to in clause (3) instituted on or after the day the Armed Forces start acting in aid of civil power and pending in any High Court shall remain suspended for the period during which the Armed Forces are so acting.

    Army’s role is not to mediate nor to suggest a peaceful solution by telephoning the Prime Minister. By doing this we are in fact inviting the army to take over duties of the gov’t. With High Justices ignorant of the article 245; d people still wonder why there have been so many Martial Laws in Pakistan’s history.
     
  14. Syed.Ali.Haider

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    I think Justice Siddiqui of the IHC is a certifiable nutcase, personally, who has no business being on the high court, and I am on record here as having said that previously as well. He confuses his personal opinions as having the gravitas of law, which is simply not true.
     
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    I know what you mean. There is a differance between trecherous sell outs and valid criticism. I would like to think I am critical of everything in Pakistan and do not regard anything as "holy cow" but I would never do it to further a agenda by Pakistan's enemies.

    Going back to the subject in hand honestly I feel most disillusioned about the state in Pakistan - that includes across the spectrum including the military. What w have seen is craven defeat by the state in face of street thugs. The principle that has been established is gather some hooligans, block off Islamabad and then get the federal government to meet your demands. To top it off get compensated by the federal government for wanton destruction, rioting, blackmail that led to loss of life.

    To my eyes this disaster in it's import is probably greater than Bangla fiasco of 1971.
     
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