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Pakistan Is The “Zipper” Of Pan-Eurasian Integration

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Sir havent we known this for ages....The only reason why we have the zipper unzipped is thanks to our flawed democracy...where the notion of "democracy" is clearly misunderstood....in reality it is just a terms lease to various families who dont value the country or the importance of the power(s) they possess !

This belief is not far from truth that Pakistan is not only of strategic importance to pan eurasian integration but also Afro-Asiatic integration too

Time is money we should complete this project ASAP....and in order for this to pursue to the fullest, we shall also look into eliminating the society issues that the people face
God bless Pakistan....I hope Gwadar turns tables for all of us :pakistan:
I can say a lot of things to disappoint you...crappy systems, dysfunctional democracy etc...
But bro I'm internally very hopeful for Pakistan...Pakistan's creation was miracle and its existence is even a greater miracle...the enemies have done their best and lost and this 4-5 gen war is their last ditch effort but inshaAllah....Pakistan will emerge victorious like a phoenix from the fires of this WoT and corrupt political system thrust upon us by our enemies. CPEC is one such example and to gauge its real worth just look how Modi has become insane and insomniac and he is getting uglier and darker day by day due to the fires of jealousy burning his internals inside out and his stinkier than a dead dog smoke is vitiating the atmosphere...
 
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Pakistan ,Russia, China, Turkey and Iran can form strong economic bond. This future bloc will be more fair and just and will become wealthy. Lots of trade and military alliances. Will become the next peace haven after the west.
 

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India goal is keep Afghanistan somewhat independent of Pakistan. India's role is more of a spoiler. India is not involved in Maldives save one intervention. In Sri Lanka they washed off their hands in the 1990s. Maldives and Sri Lanka are not central to Indian foreign policy. The Pakistani army has made Afghanistan the most important piece ahead of Kashmir.
the only role of India in Afghanistan is denying Pakistan strategic depth which makes sense no need to justify anything this is how the world works
Pakistan or its has not made Afghanistan most important piece
check the tittle
you see ECO was formed 1992
if it wasnot for Afghanistan
ECO would have been a seperate economic bloc of the world comparable to atleast GCC if not ASEAN
it would have surpassed SAARC
the only thing is it did not happen due to Afghanistan
well not due to Afghanistan but due to afghan hostilities with them since 1947
 

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A great read indeed, CPEC is the gateway & so far both Pakistan & China have been doing what they committed. On the other hand those who were against this development have started to come out of sack openly which is really a blessing in disguise as it will further boost the popularity among the investors.. Success is Gauranteed as Pakistan believes its survival is linked to successful completion & operation of this project, while China's ambitions to connect the other states thru road for future..
 

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Iran - 400 billion
Kazakhstan - 200 billion
Other CAS countries - 100 billion

So basically Pakistan is threatening India a country with GDP of 2 trillion with its own economy at 250 billion and trade partners of 1 trillion.

Better Pakistan realise that its better to have trade with India then rest of world.
Bus kar paghle, rulaega kya?
 

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The author is quite perceptive. If you would read his other articles/analysis then you would be able to appreciate it much further.

His fundamental theme has been hybrid warfare.

Sadly, for Pak...this concept has been put to max use in your great country. You have been under hybrid attacks for more than ten years. From IMF to hindu empire sponsored terror...


Coming to original context of this thread..hopefully, people could see clearly what many others and I have been saying that CPEC is not just about infrastructure..something far bigger lies behind it.

My contention still remains that the core of this strategic project remain Sino-Pak relations. Others, GCC, Iran and EEU/Russia will all benefit from it. The CPEC is therefore gamechanger for many powers.

And Pak sit nicely in the centre.

However, in other countries crisis can bring opportunities. But its tragic that opportunities in Pak bring crisis.

Just look at the scale and impact of CPEC and look how the enemies of Sino-Pak are creating crisises.

Therefore, a resolute approach is needed to emiminate the infrastructure of these crisises.

Turkey is a pivotal state in this long game as well. When the Turks become fully onboard and start putting up factories along the corridor then the game really changes.

Iran is a difficult nut to crack. One just doesn't know where they are heading and what is there gameplan.

The groundwork is already done for the Sino-Pak-Sadi deep cooperation in all fields. So where ever SA goes GCC follows.

Russia is only turning East due to pressure from West. What happens when that pressure is removed and some candy is dangeled in front of them? Russia will jump back to the West! Perhaps after Putin...but this is the Russian psychology for centuries.

So the Core will remain Sino-Pak in the CPEC.

Due to CPEC Sino-Pak relationship has been entrenched in such deeper manner that no amount of treaties can achieve this.

Now the destinies of the two great countries are intertwined. So will be the threat from the enemies.

Those who wish to contain China will also do the same to Pak state.

So what needs to be done?

What must become the strategic economic and secutriy architecture of Pak with China?


In a multidimensional threat/attack environment what can Pak and China do together to break free and change the strategic power architecture of eurasia?

Remeber, Pak brothers, whoever controls the eurasia economic sphere will be the leader of the world for the next century!

india is only relevant because of its size. nothing more. indian will remain hostile to Sino-Pak for some time to come. Accepting this reality and dealing with accordlingly is the pragmatic way forward.

So, Pak brothers, just ingnore the indian troublemakers and develop ideas and frameworks that will lauch your country twoards rapid development both social and economic.


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the only role of India in Afghanistan is denying Pakistan strategic depth which makes sense no need to justify anything this is how the world works
Pakistan or its has not made Afghanistan most important piece
check the tittle
you see ECO was formed 1992
if it wasnot for Afghanistan
ECO would have been a seperate economic bloc of the world comparable to atleast GCC if not ASEAN
it would have surpassed SAARC
the only thing is it did not happen due to Afghanistan
well not due to Afghanistan but due to afghan hostilities with them since 1947
Thanks for the pointer to ECO
the only problem is all the member states are issues
ultra-corrupt - Uzbekistan (Sorry Pakistan does not qualify here)
hot potatoes (Iran)
civil war (Afghanistan)

Iran, Turkey and Pakistan have to work out a limited free trade partnership and start from there. The EU started small.
I see Iran being the big obstacle

The author is quite perceptive. If you would read his other articles/analysis then you would be able to appreciate it much further.

His fundamental theme has been hybrid warfare.

Sadly, for Pak...this concept has been put to max use in your great country. You have been under hybrid attacks for more than ten years. From IMF to hindu empire sponsored terror...


Coming to original context of this thread..hopefully, people could see clearly what many others and I have been saying that CPEC is not just about infrastructure..something far bigger lies behind it.

My contention still remains that the core of this strategic project remain Sino-Pak relations. Others, GCC, Iran and EEU/Russia will all benefit from it. The CPEC is therefore gamechanger for many powers.

And Pak sit nicely in the centre.

However, in other countries crisis can bring opportunities. But its tragic that opportunities in Pak bring crisis.

Just look at the scale and impact of CPEC and look how the enemies of Sino-Pak are creating crisises.

Therefore, a resolute approach is needed to emiminate the infrastructure of these crisises.

Turkey is a pivotal state in this long game as well. When the Turks become fully onboard and start putting up factories along the corridor then the game really changes.

Iran is a difficult nut to crack. One just doesn't know where they are heading and what is there gameplan.

The groundwork is already done for the Sino-Pak-Sadi deep cooperation in all fields. So where ever SA goes GCC follows.

Russia is only turning East due to pressure from West. What happens when that pressure is removed and some candy is dangeled in front of them? Russia will jump back to the West! Perhaps after Putin...but this is the Russian psychology for centuries.

So the Core will remain Sino-Pak in the CPEC.

Due to CPEC Sino-Pak relationship has been entrenched in such deeper manner that no amount of treaties can achieve this.

Now the destinies of the two great countries are intertwined. So will be the threat from the enemies.

Those who wish to contain China will also do the same to Pak state.

So what needs to be done?

What must become the strategic economic and secutriy architecture of Pak with China?


In a multidimensional threat/attack environment what can Pak and China do together to break free and change the strategic power architecture of eurasia?

Remeber, Pak brothers, whoever controls the eurasia economic sphere will be the leader of the world for the next century!

india is only relevant because of its size. nothing more. indian will remain hostile to Sino-Pak for some time to come. Accepting this reality and dealing with accordlingly is the pragmatic way forward.

So, Pak brothers, just ingnore the indian troublemakers and develop ideas and frameworks that will lauch your country twoards rapid development both social and economic.


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Russia is the dominant part of the Eurasian landmass. It is white, christian. their destiny is with the EU. After Putin & his gang goes into oblivion they are joining the EU.

No one is going to ship goods on land when the shipping costs are a fraction

India's size will matter. if China does not maintain a working relationship with America Uncle Sam will turbocharge India with infusions of technology to transform Indian economy & military
 

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Thanks for the pointer to ECO
the only problem is all the member states are issues
ultra-corrupt - Uzbekistan (Sorry Pakistan does not qualify here)
hot potatoes (Iran)
civil war (Afghanistan)

Iran, Turkey and Pakistan have to work out a limited free trade partnership and start from there. The EU started small.
I see Iran being the big obstacle
ultr corruption does not matters(actually it do but)if the trade would have started by transit routes by then
much would have been different
Iran was a problem but no more
the thing about Iran-Turkey-Pakistan is already happening
of course it is annoyingly slow
 

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I think Pakistan is going through turbulent time. I myself, Tajik and Pakistani (Punjabi) have time and again realized that Pakistan is at the center of a campaign and at risk of splintering. The core area of concern is Pakistan's vast energy rich Balochostan region. It seems the wave of pressure- al beit coordinated pressure- has just begun. The following report is testimony to more of what's to come, as Pakistan gets distracted at other fronts. The only answer is unity and cooperation


QUETTA: Pakistan’s border authorities lodged a strong protest on Friday with Iranian authorities on firing of mortar shells in the Parom area of Panjgur, the bordering district of Pakistan with Iran.

Sources said that Pakistani officials lodged the protest with Iran’s border authorities in writing and termed the incident a violation of Pakistan’s territory.

Sources said that Pakistan’s officials had demanded a flag meeting with Iranian authorities on the issue.

“They had fired 20 mortar shells from the Iranian border,” a security official said, adding that fortunately no loss of life and property took place as shells exploded away from human settlements in Parom.

Published in Dawn, September 3rd, 2016
 

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ultr corruption does not matters(actually it do but)if the trade would have started by transit routes by then
much would have been different
Iran was a problem but no more
the thing about Iran-Turkey-Pakistan is already happening
of course it is annoyingly slow
Iran's focus is propping Shia regimes and power centers in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. They have little time for Pakistan and Turkey
 

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Iran's focus is propping Shia regimes and power centers in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. They have little time for Pakistan and Turkey
no no no
with all due respect Iran is trying this but realize that Pakistan and Turkey are not lebanon or yemen
its best they cooperate with them and trust me they know it
 

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