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Baibars_1260

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Nothing new,

The enemy always declares a ceasefire when it can't win.

1971 .
Refused one ceasefire resolution
before accepting the second.

2002.
Implemented a ceasefire after Operation Parikaran.


Another Hilarious comment:
Why were you "strong enough" to
resist THIS UN resolution in 1971?


"UNITED NATIONS, N. Y., Dec. 8—
Indian delegates today derided the General Assembly's call for a cease‐fire in the war with Pakistan and indicated India would not obey it. The Pakistani delegation expressed strong reservations about its terms.

One Indian delegate, N. P. Jain, called it “much too vague” and another, Narendra Singh, asked whether India would stop fighting and pull her troops back, said:

“Certiiinly not; we are not foolish.”



Just 13 days later you followed the UN resolution on a ceasefire when the US Task Force 74 was threatening your rear, and you got a drubbing in the Chamb Jhaurian Sector and there was no hope of a breakthrough on the Western Front.
So what changed?
Did Sam Bahadur forget to comb his mustache that day ?
Or is it because you respect the danda ?
You fight only the weak and bend over when faced with odds.




Who cares what the UN does?. China was not even a member of the UN in 1962 and beat the stuffing out of you.
Your UN is not going to get your Kashmir back or provide you protection in a nuclear war ( no ceasefire there).
You have two permanent enemies on your border that Sam Bahadur has no answer to ( God rest his soul ).
So what DID you get out of your "victory " in 1971 ?
 

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Nothing new,

The enemy always declares a ceasefire when it can't win.

1971 .
Refused one ceasefire resolution
before accepting the second.

2002.
Implemented a ceasefire after Operation Parikaran.
Peace is like carbon dioxide to an Indian.

Its like if you offer India peace, it starts giving itself a thousand cuts.
 

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Well let’s see.
I have a feeling the pressure from China in the east has some part to play here. They’ve sent much in terms of men and material.
There's no pressure from China for the peace deal between both DGMOs.

Most likely new Indian strategy for their own interests.
 

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Peace is like carbon dioxide to an Indian.

Its like if you offer India peace, it starts giving itself a thousand cuts.
There are two sets of forces in India.
Group 1 :
There is a "mad " group that believe in a Reconquista where the situation of Granada in Spain can be replicated in India by overwhelming economic and military power.
Pakistan can be vanquished, conquered and reconverted which is a pre-requisite to doing the same to Indian Muslims.
Earlier given India's predominantly secular environment this group was dormant and on the fringes of the political scene, Most important of all the armed forces so necessary for such an adventure were apolitical.
Now this group is vocal with senior retired generals speaking on its behalf with sizable support in the armed forces. This section of the armed forces is against ceasefires .

Group 2
Then there is group that has a long term plan for removal of Muslims but not through armed conflict ( even though the threat of an overwhelming military force is to be kept visible) .
This group, largely representing the views of the Congress or opposition believes Pakistan can be successfully moved into a situation of peaceful compliance with a double approach of threat and then allurement, This group believes in the "sugar cube approach" of dissolving Pakistan slowly by a mix of cultural affinity demonstrations "we-are-one-people" approach, and a shaming approach:
But first a ceasefire is needed...

Arguments Group 2 Indians make .
1. We are one people, and have been so for 5000 years so why fight us ?
2. Religion? There are more Muslims in India than in Pakistan and they are better off than you so why fight us ?
3. Economics ! Look at us and look at you , we are so much better than you. Never mind you were better than us all through the decades up to the early 1990s . Isn't it a shame you fought a war on behalf of the USA for 40 years? Why fight us ?
Oh yes, we massed 1000,000 troops on your border too, but then we are more powerful. If your economy buckles under the strain of fighting the first , and second superpower and then the 4th largest military power then served you right for separating from us. Let us rule you. Just convert peacefully .
4. Shame on you the way you treat minorities . Why do you squawk so much when 1000 Muslims were killed protesting citizenship rights?

5. So let's have a ceasefire. Let's start " People to People contact "
Learn about your pre-Islamic heritage. See if you can consider reverting. It is only Islam that comes between us . Dump that and together we will be the happiest and most prosperous people in the world.
 

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I don't think anyone has any trust in Pakistan, I hate it with passion now, this is what our forefathers didn't realise when you become a minority you are nothing, a no body and the results are there for all to see.

From love of Sikhs to now selling of Kashmir, no matter what we will rise and we will rule over the majority and we will not make peace until Kashmir is free and so is east Turkestan.

Always will work against this country now, my hatred for Pakistan is more then my hatred for anything else.
 

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I don't think anyone has any trust in Pakistan, I hate it with passion now, this is what our forefathers didn't realise when you become a minority you are nothing, a no body and the results are there for all to see.

From love of Sikhs to now selling of Kashmir, no matter what we will rise and we will rule over the majority and we will not make peace until Kashmir is free and so is east Turkestan.

Always will work against this country now, my hatred for Pakistan is more then my hatred for anything else.

Let me guess your a wannabe afghani 🤪🤪
A serious question. If the Hindu converts does he become free and take the mantle of the conqueror?

Free from caste
Free from Jahilat
Free from idol worship
 

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There are two sets of forces in India.
Group 1 :
There is a "mad " group that believe in a Reconquista where the situation of Granada in Spain can be replicated in India by overwhelming economic and military power.
Pakistan can be vanquished, conquered and reconverted which is a pre-requisite to doing the same to Indian Muslims.
Earlier given India's predominantly secular environment this group was dormant and on the fringes of the political scene, Most important of all the armed forces so necessary for such an adventure were apolitical.
Now this group is vocal with senior retired generals speaking on its behalf with sizable support in the armed forces. This section of the armed forces is against ceasefires .

Group 2
Then there is group that has a long term plan for removal of Muslims but not through armed conflict ( even though the threat of an overwhelming military force is to be kept visible) .
This group, largely representing the views of the Congress or opposition believes Pakistan can be successfully moved into a situation of peaceful compliance with a double approach of threat and then allurement, This group believes in the "sugar cube approach" of dissolving Pakistan slowly by a mix of cultural affinity demonstrations "we-are-one-people" approach, and a shaming approach:
But first a ceasefire is needed...

Arguments Group 2 Indians make .
1. We are one people, and have been so for 5000 years so why fight us ?
2. Religion? There are more Muslims in India than in Pakistan and they are better off than you so why fight us ?
3. Economics ! Look at us and look at you , we are so much better than you. Never mind you were better than us all through the decades up to the early 1990s . Isn't it a shame you fought a war on behalf of the USA for 40 years? Why fight us ?
Oh yes, we massed 1000,000 troops on your border too, but then we are more powerful. If your economy buckles under the strain of fighting the first , and second superpower and then the 4th largest military power then served you right for separating from us. Let us rule you. Just convert peacefully .
4. Shame on you the way you treat minorities . Why do you squawk so much when 1000 Muslims were killed protesting citizenship rights?

5. So let's have a ceasefire. Let's start " People to People contact "
Learn about your pre-Islamic heritage. See if you can consider reverting. It is only Islam that comes between us . Dump that and together we will be the happiest and most prosperous people in the world.


Hindutva and conflict with India is better then peace



If Kashmir had been with Pakistan from 1947


India would have won by now


Our population had extensive links with India
Our culture was too similar etc

The only thing that truly saved us was the shitstorm over Kashmir which ensured conflict and war and hatred upon which the basis of Pakistani independence was formed

The conflict and threat ensured we built a powerful military
Ensured we pursued nuclear weapons
Ensured we built a powerful intelligence agency

The hatred and anger and conflict
Ensured that trade was minimal
Ensured that people to people contact was always limited

Hindutva extremism and the communal shithole in India and snapped many Pakistani out of the daze especially Muhagirs





The threat to us is peace and contact


It's why hindutva and Modi MUST WIN 🤐🇵🇰



At the same time a disaster of a Afghanistan has helped us repeatedly deal with the afghani wannabes




There can be no peace
We need conflict whilst we forge Pakistani patriots
 

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To ghadday jhanda kion lagaya hai? Rehta kion hai idher?
I don't think anyone has any trust in Pakistan, I hate it with passion now, this is what our forefathers didn't realise when you become a minority you are nothing, a no body and the results are there for all to see.

From love of Sikhs to now selling of Kashmir, no matter what we will rise and we will rule over the majority and we will not make peace until Kashmir is free and so is east Turkestan.

Always will work against this country now, my hatred for Pakistan is more then my hatred for anything else.
 

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Hindutva and conflict with India is better then peace



If Kashmir had been with Pakistan from 1947


India would have won by now


Our population had extensive links with India
Our culture was too similar etc

The only thing that truly saved us was the shitstorm over Kashmir which ensured conflict and war and hatred upon which the basis of Pakistani independence was formed

The conflict and threat ensured we built a powerful military
Ensured we pursued nuclear weapons
Ensured we built a powerful intelligence agency

The hatred and anger and conflict
Ensured that trade was minimal
Ensured that people to people contact was always limited

Hindutva extremism and the communal shithole in India and snapped many Pakistani out of the daze especially Muhagirs





The threat to us is peace and contact


It's why hindutva and Modi MUST WIN 🤐🇵🇰



At the same time a disaster of a Afghanistan has helped us repeatedly deal with the afghani wannabes




There can be no peace
We need conflict whilst we forge Pakistani patriots
Your post is so interesting with so many questions that I am replying to it in a more appropriate thread here:

 

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If you think Pakistan has approached India than you need to explain why - what has changed between India or Pakistan. Look harder, Pakistan has done ZERO things to appease India in Kashmir, Afghanistan or elsewhere. On the other hand, India has just done a deal with China in which China has evacuated Indian territories while some other areas are in China's control - possibly forever. Watch Ajay Shukla explaining Karan Thapar what India has conceded in this deal - and the same deal also has LOC component which is making India approach Pakistan and reverse the status of Kashmir.

Wait and see, you will be surprised by India reversing decisions in Kashmir. The decision should be out soon.
If you understand Indian political system you will know there is no going back.its political sucide.
 

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If you understand Indian political system you will know there is no going back.its political sucide.
We know, India will bite its own hand and lose worth in Kashmir and yet it will reverse its actions. Pakistan would not have agreed to any peace deal unless it knew it is getting something.
 

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The question is why did india do it?
Is it India or US behind it?
If it's US, what are they planning in the region? Anything against Iran? China?
 

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There are two sets of forces in India.
Group 1 :
There is a "mad " group that believe in a Reconquista where the situation of Granada in Spain can be replicated in India by overwhelming economic and military power.
Pakistan can be vanquished, conquered and reconverted which is a pre-requisite to doing the same to Indian Muslims.
Earlier given India's predominantly secular environment this group was dormant and on the fringes of the political scene, Most important of all the armed forces so necessary for such an adventure were apolitical.
Now this group is vocal with senior retired generals speaking on its behalf with sizable support in the armed forces. This section of the armed forces is against ceasefires .

Group 2
Then there is group that has a long term plan for removal of Muslims but not through armed conflict ( even though the threat of an overwhelming military force is to be kept visible) .
This group, largely representing the views of the Congress or opposition believes Pakistan can be successfully moved into a situation of peaceful compliance with a double approach of threat and then allurement, This group believes in the "sugar cube approach" of dissolving Pakistan slowly by a mix of cultural affinity demonstrations "we-are-one-people" approach, and a shaming approach:
But first a ceasefire is needed...

Arguments Group 2 Indians make .
1. We are one people, and have been so for 5000 years so why fight us ?
2. Religion? There are more Muslims in India than in Pakistan and they are better off than you so why fight us ?
3. Economics ! Look at us and look at you , we are so much better than you. Never mind you were better than us all through the decades up to the early 1990s . Isn't it a shame you fought a war on behalf of the USA for 40 years? Why fight us ?
Oh yes, we massed 1000,000 troops on your border too, but then we are more powerful. If your economy buckles under the strain of fighting the first , and second superpower and then the 4th largest military power then served you right for separating from us. Let us rule you. Just convert peacefully .
4. Shame on you the way you treat minorities . Why do you squawk so much when 1000 Muslims were killed protesting citizenship rights?

5. So let's have a ceasefire. Let's start " People to People contact "
Learn about your pre-Islamic heritage. See if you can consider reverting. It is only Islam that comes between us . Dump that and together we will be the happiest and most prosperous people in the world.
What are the classifications of the Pakistani groups?

Pakistanis who want peace with India, who are these people?
 

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We know, India will bite its own hand and lose worth in Kashmir and yet it will reverse its actions. Pakistan would not have agreed to any peace deal unless it knew it is getting something.
What has Pakistan done to expect something.Tell me one action of Pakistan after Aug 5th .
 
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