Forum administration has banned several times. But then again Bharati trolls come back to this forum. I understand your obsession with Pakistan but still you guys should show some dignity and leave. You are uninvited here.Instead of crying and whining about it , why don't you complain it to the forum administration .
I am afraid it has gone beyond that now. Musharraf's release is a foregone conclusion. Looking at the situation, who would not want to negotiate for more?Less the Army, more about supporters of Musharraf in the Army and retired officers. Qadri and Ik are their game to get Musharraf out of the mix and have him flee.
Oops sorry ...... I misunderstood your post .I am not aware of anyone from Pakistan telling India which of their institute is main problem?
Prove me wrong with solid facts if you think that is not the case, they will support nawaz to get through it as he is one of their own and obedient, can't have a free minded khan who is supported by public.Can you not see what is happening? How can you say this? I think your ethnic-based view is getting the better of you.
Not true.Firstly, please be aware that the Hurriyat does NOT represent the people of Kashmir! Period!
more important question is, will they themselves like to meet them? In past during indira gandhi tenure u have tried that, but they themselves refused to meet ur representatives. Remember India is a foreign entity here occupying our lands so is she treated in such a way by others. Even yr country knows it thats why it doesnt meet them or try meeting them anymore.Question: Will the Pakistan government (and PA/ISI) allow the Indian High Commissioner in Pakistan to talk with representatives of Pak Administered Kashmir including Gilgit/Baltistan as this area is disputed too?
Another usual indian gibberish.
‘From czar-like prime minister to deputy commissioner-type character’ - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
‘From czar-like prime minister to deputy commissioner-type character’
Updated about 2 hours ago
Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif. — APP Photo
ISLAMABAD: Besieged Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has been assured by military that there will be no coup, but in return he must “share space with the army”, according to a government source who was privy to recent talks between the two sides.
Last week, as tens of thousands of protesters advanced on the federal capital to demand his resignation, Sharif dispatched two emissaries to consult with the army chief.
He wanted to know if the military was quietly engineering the twin protest movements by cricket star-turned-politician Imran Khan and activist cleric Tahirul Qadri, or if, perhaps, it was preparing to stage a coup.
According to a government insider with a first-hand account of the meeting, Sharif's envoys returned with good news and bad: there will be no coup but if he wants his government to survive, from now on it will have to share space with the army.
The army's media wing declined to comment.
Thousands of protesters marched to parliament on Tuesday, using a crane and bolt cutters to force their way past barricades of shipping containers, as riot police and paramilitaries watched on after being told not to intervene.
Military spokesman General Asim Bajwa tweeted a reminder to protesters to respect government institutions and called for a “meaningful dialogue” to resolve the crisis.
Even if, as seems likely, the Khan and Qadri protests eventually fizzle out due to a lack of overt support from the military, the prime minister will emerge weakened from political crisis.
Sharif may have to be subservient to the generals on issues he wanted to handle himself — from the fight against Taliban to relations with India and Pakistan's role in neighbouring, post-Nato Afghanistan.
“The biggest loser will be Nawaz, cut down to size both by puny political rivals and the powerful army,” said a government minister who asked not to be named.
“From this moment on, he'll always be looking over his shoulder.”
A year ago, few would have predicted that Sharif would be in such trouble: back then, he had just swept to power for a third time in a milestone poll that marked the first transition from one elected government to another.
But in the months that followed, Sharif — who had crossed swords with the army in the past — moved to enhance the clout of the civilian government in a country that has been ruled by the military for more than half of its history.
He irked the generals by putting former military head Pervez Musharraf, who had ended Sharif's last stint as prime minister in a 1999 coup, on trial for treason.
Sharif is also said to have opposed a military offensive to crush Taliban insurgents and sought reconciliation with India.
India rapprochement at risk
Sources in Sharif's government said that with civilian-military relations in such bad shape, Sharif suspected that the street protests to unseat him were being manipulated from behind the scenes by the army.
He also feared that if the agitations turned violent, the army would exploit the situation to seize power for itself.
However, the two close aides who went to see army chief Raheel Sharif in the garrison town of Rawalpindi last Wednesday were told that the military had no intention of intervening.
“The military does not intend to carry out a coup but ... if the government wants to get through its many problems and the four remaining years of its term, it has to share space with the army,” said the insider, summing up the message they were given.
“Sharing space” is a familiar euphemism for civilian governments focusing narrowly on domestic political affairs and leaving security and strategic policy to the army.
The fact that the military is back in the driving seat will make it harder for Sharif to deliver the rapprochement with India that he promised when he won the election last year.
Indian media speculated this week that Sharif had already been forced by the generals to scuttle peace talks.
New Delhi on Monday called off a meeting between foreign ministry officials of the two countries, which had been set to take place on Aug 25, because Pakistan announced its intention to consult Kashmiri separatists ahead of the meeting.
The Himalayan region of Kashmir has been a bone of contention between India and Pakistan since both gained independence in 1947. The two nations have fought three wars, two of them over Kashmir, and came close to a fourth in 2001.
The Pakistani army's predominance could also mean it could torpedo the government's relationship with Afghanistan, where a regional jostle for influence is expected to intensify after the withdrawal of most foreign forces at the end of this year.
Paying the price
Few believed that the army would back Khan's bid for power even if it used him to put Sharif on the defensive.
“Even the army knows that Imran Khan may be a great pressure cooker in the kitchen, but you can't trust him to be the chef,” said a former intelligence chief who declined to be named.
Sharif may now pay the price for miscalculating that the military may have been willing to let the one-time cricket hero topple him.
“Thinking that Imran could be a game-changer, Nawaz has conceded the maximum to the army,” a Sharif aide said.
“From a czar-like prime minister, they (the army) have reduced him to a deputy commissioner-type character who will deal with the day-to-day running of the country while they take care of the important stuff like Afghanistan and India. This is not a small loss.”
But Sharif's aides say a stint in jail under Musharraf, followed by exile from Pakistan and five years as leader of the opposition party, have made him realise that he needs to share power to survive.
“This is not the old Nawaz, the wild confrontationalist,” said an adviser to the prime minister in Lahore, the capital of his Punjab province power base.
“This is the new Nawaz who has learnt the hard way that politics is about living to fight another day.”
For that look at election results, which are claimed to be fair West of Indus and unfair on the East side.Prove me wrong with solid facts if you think that is not the case, they will support nawaz to get through it as he is one of their own and obedient, can't have a free minded khan who is supported by public.
well, you made your choice,you can talk all you want with huriyat now,aap bhi khush hum bhi khusWell said. India is acting like a cry baby.
How are we suppose to resolve issues without "talking" to stake holders?
I guess they just wanna talk on the border with guns as usual.
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