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  1. crankthatskunk

    crankthatskunk SENIOR MEMBER

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    General (R) Awan says that Pakistan's interests are linked now, in current scenarios.
    They are going to swim or sink together.

    He also said that Indians demanded from USA that if they are to be part of the alliance developed by USA against China in Asia (and Australia) then they should be allowed free hand in Kashmir. USA has given India their willingness to ignore their steps to swallow Kashmir.


     
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    I had been talking about this issue of the passage to Siachen after China's moves in Ladakh.
    Many were arguing with me on this forum.

    Please listen to "General Awan" he states the same that if China cuts off the road supplies to Siachen, the Indians would vacate it voluntairly. He says after that, the only option for India would be air drops, which wouldn't be sustainable for India.
    He specified a route Indians are using at the time.

    I think he knows better than most of us.

    General Awan also said that it is opportunity for Pakistan to sign a military pact with China.
    He said China has made its intentions clear. He points that if China now keeps quiet the future air bases establish now in occupied Kashmir would pose a serious challenges for both China and Pakistan.

    He said that it is time for Pakistan to get active, otherwise the game would be out of our hands.

    For days, I have argued exactly the same point with forum members, in regards to Siachen supply and that Pakistan has to make its moves on Siachen and the Kashmir valley itself, while opportunities are presenting themselves. Otherwise it would be too late and India would be more bold in the future with the help of USA.

    USA is testing India, how strong it would be to contain China.
    It is very important for both China and Pakistan to defeat India and stops her in her tracks to establish its hegemony in the region of Kashmir, and to provide bases to USA in the future.

    Ages ago, I have precisely spelled out what would happen to India and its interests in Afghanistan. And that USA had to withdraw from Afghanistan. With USA withdrawal, India, its soldiers, diplomatic core, its investment etc. would be sitting ducks. India at the moment through its proxies and stooges like northern alliance , Ghani, Karzai etc is trying to delay the departure of USA from Afghanistan. India knows that with USA withdrawal, it has to pack its bags too and leave Afghanistan. Ashraf with Afghan army wouldn't be able to provide them safe shelter.

    Those interests and the interests in Kashmir are interlinked.
     
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    I dont see any thing happening. Pak. Gov is piece of shist, sorry Imran Khan but i have to say you let us down. And not a single peep we heard from Pak Army. May be they are doing all thing under the radar or just sucking their thumbs while this beautiful opportunity passes by
     
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    litman SENIOR MEMBER

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    the information of this chap mubashir luqman is generally nothing but non sense. he is not a trust worthy person.
     
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    oh man common be realistic, we are not indian or phaphay kuttni. just wait indian will do some stupidity its just matter of time we have to be ready.
     
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    Did he give the inforamtion!!
    He has a Retd Major General of Pakistan army with him passing the comments.
    You say General's information is also non-sense!!
     
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    watch the video with open ears and you will find most of the information about the status of indian army was given by mubashir rather then general.
     
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    Mubashar Luqman is not a quality journalist IMHO. I used to hold him in high regard but not anymore.

    Virtually any journalist will create sensation and lie for the sake of publicity, ratings, and money.

    Regarding the theme, WE should not rush to judgement and conclusions. China needs to do something big about India if Pakistan is to make its move. There is China - Russia - India angle to it as well; communication channel.
     
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    ہم کو اپنی آضإم پورا کرنے کی لیے بولنے کی ضرورت نہیں ہےبلکےخاموشی سے وہ سب کرنے کی ضرورت ہے جس سے مقبوضہ کشمیر کو انڈیا کی ظلم و ستم سے آذادی دلوإی جاسکے
     
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    drug addict is busy now a days in calling terrorist shaheed or bash his own security agencies to please others i.e. pak land used agaisnt iran or third country this MF needs to resign
     
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    modi is a fool but not fool enough to escalate with China. Pakistan needs to help our paraind modi.
     
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    Imran Khan has no balls to join anyone we need a new leadership. Under Bajwa and Imran's watch l,not only Kashmiris but our Pakistani Kashmiris, armed forces have been martyred by the dozens.
     
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    Well, if you go down that line, most of Pakistani, or Indians to that matter, wouldn't be credible at all.
    But that is not the point of discussion. If Mubashir is credible or not, you should concentrate on what he said or the information he gave in this video, is that wrong!!
    India has tried to exploit the triangle you just mentioned, I don't think they got any hopeful response from the Russians. That's why they are back in the USA corner again, trying to get some backing.

    As for China, I am sure that extensive discussions and intelligence , information sharing is going on with Pakistan.
    The issue is that would Pakistani Army have the "balls" to act, while the front is hot. Or it is going to make the excuses it had been making for decades.

    I agree. But who is going to do it!!
    The politicians who are more concerned and busy looting the country!!
    Or party like PPP, whose head says how you going to make me hold responsible for fake bank accounts!
    And now side with the terrorists who are attacking Pakistani state!!
    Bilawal gives statements in their support, meats Dawar and others regularly.

    Or those who were sending Saris to Modi!! Never uttered a word against Kulbashan!!
    While Chief of the army telephoned them and ask how are you feeling!!

    The whole cabal is busy doing their own bidding. Pakistan is important for them!!
    Living and brave nation, do not accept a word against their country. Do not allow anyone to attack their sovereign country even once. While in Pakistan, India had been conducted terror activities with impunity for years and decades.
    Doval is on the record to say he would be helping and training Pakistan's enemy to cause terrorism in Pakistan.

    But show me the activities of Pakistani states to declare Indian a terrorists state.
    On the contrary, India is bold, he preaches and propagate that Pakistan is a terrorists country, spread it through the diplomatic means, in the UN and other bodies. While Pakistani establishment, its government bow their heads down and take it.

    Shameful, truly shameful behaviour.
     
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    ہم کو اپنی آضإم پورا کرنے کی لیے بولنے کی ضرورت نہیں ہےبلکےخاموشی سے وہ سب کرنے کی ضرورت ہے جس سے مقبوضہ کشمیر کو انڈیا کی ظلم و ستم سے آذادی دلوإی جاسکے
    Answer of the question, The sons of the pakistan's soils are going to do this.. india has played her last card to activate sleeper cells within pakistan (marta kiya na karta) & pakistan has to fight with it first.
    Our cards are still on table yet, which should be played successfully just for once within india. (So sunar ki ek lohar ki)
     
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    this guy Mubashir is peddling speculations in his excitement..
    the interesting thing General mentioned is the air drops go 20 ft deep in snow in and around Siachin so air routes are not really an easy way as thought..