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Figaro

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noone is asking pakistan to match chinese production, we dont need 20,000 tanks we just need 1000 tanks
The Chinese don't even produce many tanks any more. The total production of the Type 99A, the most advanced tank in the PLAGF, is probably around 700 even though it has been in service for quite a while. This is because there are basically no overland threats to China except for India, which requires light tanks rather than traditional medium or heavy tanks. They used to have a huge arsenal because of the overland threat posed by the Soviet Union (hence the massive production of the Type 59) but that has been irrelevant for the past 30 years.
 

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noone is asking pakistan to match chinese production, we dont need 20,000 tanks we just need 1000 tanks
If the Army can wait for 10 years with 50 tanks produced per year than OK because that is what has been going in Pakistan and also Ukraine.
 
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That cannot be the work of a single IED.

Looks like that MBT was (intentionally) destroyed with considerable amount of explosives/firepower which could be utilized unopposed.

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Each MBT absorbed an otherwise combat-applicable attack and continued to offer mission support.
what ATGMs were used to knockout merkava.. arent they the most thick armored with ERA on top
 

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what's the different? why more cheaper than thailand? ?
Pakistan’s VT-4s are better than the Thai ones, better armor, engine and armament, the cheaper price might be because of the much larger order, 44 tanks versus a thousand tanks. It might also be because of Pakistan and chinas friendly relations, China is known to sell weapons to Pakistan at a cheaper price.
 

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Pakistan’s VT-4s are better than the Thai ones, better armor, engine and armament, the cheaper price might be because of the much larger order, 44 tanks versus a thousand tanks. It might also be because of Pakistan and chinas friendly relations, China is known to sell weapons to Pakistan at a cheaper price.
Thousand tanks are u serious!
 

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Dear

Of course I'm not allowed. But even then, I'll pitch in whenever I see the you guys are about to go in an entirely wrong direction on any topic.

I made a light hearted comment a few days ago on 9 Sep ... Regarding my ears getting affected by a muzzle blast of a big gun.... It was with the same purpose...

Many thanks sir. Let us reach an operational consensus here. If I ask your thoughts on anything, it is implied that only vetted and releasable information is sought. You may give a response, or you may not even give a response, depending on the situation. You will find me equally appreciative in either case. I am going to tag you in another thread on the matter of op sec.
 

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Hey, I saw the fire display video in Jhelum and you all know what that means . exercises like this requires months of training. They hit at least 3 targets 2 on move and high speed maneuvers. This mean at least 2 -3 regiments have been training in China for months. Inclusive of eme unit to support operations. I say 3 because of the two on, one off rule. Can someone confirm ?

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I doubt that you'll need a thousand MBT as tip of spear, just not cost wise viable.
The problem is a lot of the Pakistani Indian border is good terrain for tank engagements. Whoever holds the advantage in MBTs and artillery commands the land battles. It is different from China versus India, where large or even medium tank battles are simply impossible due to the extremely high altitudes and mountainous terrain. That is why 600 to 1000 VT-4s is in the sights ... the current order of 300 is just the very beginning. Neither side has the ability to completely win the aerial war and use air superiority to level ground targets so tank warfare is still extremely crucial.
 

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I doubt that you'll need a thousand MBT as tip of spear, just not cost wise viable.
Some senior members were claiming that the total envisioned number is 1000 these will be ordered in batches ... we do need new tanks to replace older versions and the only way is vt4 because al Khalid production is too slow ....
 

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