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The GL5 Active Protection System is an active protection system developed in China by NORINCO designed for main battle tanks and infantry fighting vehicles. The system can detect incoming warheads such as anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM) with a range of 100m and within a 360-degree horizontal and 20-degree band. Upon detection, two defensive rockets are fired at the incoming threat.

wooping 4.8 Mil US$ per Tank OMG we thought Russians were ripping off Indians
Cost is for 300 Tanks for now they only made a partial payment for 124. There could also be some sort of TOT involved which we will be using in Alkhalid 2 series.
 

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Cost is for 300 Tanks for now they only made a partial payment for 124. There could also be some sort of TOT involved which we will be using in Alkhalid 2 series.
Its not the price of 300 ,Avg contract for V4 ranges from 3.2 Million to 3.7 Million US$ .So please dont make up things and do some research
 

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Its not the price of 300 ,Avg contract for V4 ranges from 3.2 Million to 3.7 Million US$ .So please dont make up things and do some research
I am not making up things at least do a bit a research yourself rather than preaching other to do the same and go through entire thread. Also i would advise to not accuse other people of lying bcz you are not Akal Kul here. Try to be respectful to other members rather than being a pompous asss.
 

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I am not making up things at least do a bit a research yourself rather than preaching other to do the same and go through entire thread. Also i would advise to not accuse other people of lying bcz you are not Akal Kul here. Try to be respectful to other members rather than being a pompous asss.
what are links for your 300 tank payment or order ?
 

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Pakistan Reportedly Begin Receiving VT4 Tanks from Norinco
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North Industries Group Corporation (NORINCO), is reportedly starting to deliver new VT4 main battle tanks fitted with explosive reactive armor (ERA) to Pakistan. Pakistan Army had selected the VT4 tank in the framework of the acquisition program of at least 100 new MBTs. It is an upgraded variant of the Al-Khalid tank (VT-1) and the latest tank model from the Type 90-II tank family, and uses technology from the Type 99A currently fielded by the People’s Liberation Army.

The VT-4 main battle tank, also known as the MBT3000, is a Chinese third generation main battle tank built by Norinco for overseas export. The VT-4 has a 125mm smoothbore cannon capable of firing APFSDS, HESH, HEAT and HE rounds and guided missiles. There is also a remote weapon station on the turret armed with a 12.7 mm heavy machine gun. The fire control system has hunter-killer capabilities, laser rangefinder, panoramic sight, and a third generation thermal imaging system.


The overall layout of the VT4 is conventional with the driver’s compartment at the front, fighting compartment in the center and power pack at the rear. The tank appears to have composite and explosive reactive armor. The turret front has wedge shaped armor and the hull sides have armored sideskirts. The tank is equipped with an active protection system designated GL5, defensive grenade launchers, and a laser warning device. The vehicle also has an IFF system, NBC protection, explosion suppression system, fire extinguishing system, and air conditioning.

The 52-tonnes VT-4 is motorized with a water-cooled turbocharged electronic-controlled diesel engine developing 1,300 hp. The suspension is of the torsion bar type with hydraulic shock absorbers and either side consists of six large dual rubber-tired roadwheels with the drive sprocket at the front, idler at the rear and track return rollers. To extend the operational range of the MBT-3000, two additional diesel fuel drums can be mounted externally at the rear. The tank can run a maximum road speed of 70 km/h with a maximum cruising range of 500 km.

i couldnt find GL5 defensive videos on the net. can anyone explain, is it a projectile sharpnels sent in direction of Incoming projectiles or something different ?
 

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Tanks getting hit by 300 m range RPGs is tactically a failure of the supporting Infantry which is responsible for denying enemy anti tank teams a tactically superior firing position.

WOT is like any other war. Casualties of not only tanks, but Infantry and other arms also occurred.

Casualties are part of war. Though not completely avoidable, but they can be minimized by superior tactics.

Effective range of RPG against static targets is 300 m. If an enemy RPG team manages to reach within 300 m of a tank, then either the enemy anti tank team or the tank deserves to be roasted.

It's a failure of tactics, not the equipment.

We were going through a learning phase at that time.

You can judge this from the fact that.... When was the last time you even heard that we lost a tank to terrorists.

These older tanks, however, still possess some characteristics which even the latest tanks don't have even now....... Simplicity, maintenance and ease of operating being the first.
Battlefield tactics between enemy RPG team and opposing team put aside. Wouldn’t you say crew protection and and survivability should be at the top. Often times you’ll not find the enemy and need to absorb multiple hits to readjust weapons to a target, as we’ve seen in Gulf War 1 & 2? I often feel we lack this approach as in the West the mind set is to survive to fight another day.
 

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Battlefield tactics between enemy RPG team and opposing team put aside. Wouldn’t you say crew protection and and survivability should be at the top. Often times you’ll not find the enemy and need to absorb multiple hits to readjust weapons to a target, as we’ve seen in Gulf War 1 & 2? I often feel we lack this approach as in the West the mind set is to survive to fight another day.
That will not be just a statement.

By giving crew protection and survivability paramount importance means changing our whole doctrine, way of thinking, tactics, equipment manufacturing and procurement.

Take the example of Merkava... It heavily focuses on crew protection, hence they got the engine at the front, heavy armor, APS...... In the end though they got a very heavy tank but it assures crew survivability.... It's costly as well, but then it follows their doctrine.

Our doctrine also focuses on mobility, keeping in view the terrain available to us, enemy threats, the terrain objectives required to be achieved etc. Mobility has some inherent protection in itself as well.

To put it bluntly....
The value of life, any life, in our region is very less compared to the the West.

Our doctrines and tactics heavily focus on attainment of designated objectives at ALL COSTS.

We do not have such a concept that you should save your life whenever required,, no problem about the objective, will achieve it tomorrow provided we are alive.

Manpower resources are plentiful hence they can be easily replaced.
 
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i couldnt find GL5 defensive videos on the net. can anyone explain, is it a projectile sharpnels sent in direction of Incoming projectiles or something different ?
It's similar to Russian ARENA where small explosive charge is fired and the blast destroys incoming rocket/missile. So far noboy has deployed that kinda system because it could pose a threat for infantry if they are near front of the tank when enemy missiles is destroyed.
 

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That will not be just a statement.

By giving crew protection and survivability paramount importance means changing our whole doctrine, way of thinking, tactics, equipment manufacturing and procurement.

Take the example of Merkava... It heavily focuses on crew protection, hence they got the engine at the front, heavy armor, APS...... In the end though they got a very heavy tank but it assures crew survivability.... It's costly as well, but then it follows their doctrine.

Our doctrine also focuses on mobility, keeping in view the terrain available to us, enemy threats, the terrain objectives required to be achieved etc. Mobility has some inherent protection in itself as well.

To put it bluntly....
The value of life, any life, in our region is very less compared to the the West.

Our doctrines and tactics heavily focus on attainment of designated objectives at ALL COSTS.

We do not have such a concept that you should save your life whenever required,, no problem about the objective, will achieve it tomorrow provided we are alive.

Manpower resources are plentiful hence they can be easily replaced.
cold facts
 

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Dear brothers can we please go through the thread and not keep asking questions that have already been answered e.g. is it better than the T-90MS, does it have APS etc.
 

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i couldnt find GL5 defensive videos on the net. can anyone explain, is it a projectile sharpnels sent in direction of Incoming projectiles or something different ?



. (from 11.30 onwards).
 

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Some good videos on the VT-4, bare in mind Pakistan's version is a notch above.


In Nigeria;


Thai tanker about the VT-4;

 

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