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Indian Hindus have been arriving into the city of Leicester and causing problems for years. It's only the invitation of Hindutva preachers and marches that lead to the response.
You call us the flag bearers, but you distinctly stated that Hindutva was a term of Indianness and the Hindutvadi preachers and marches within leicester occurred before the outcry of muslims, so essentially they raised the flag of India beforehand .

you say that Hindutva is based upon the idea of unity within diversity, but why are there many Hindutvadis calling for boycott of Muslims, bulldozing homes and general communal violence on a massive scale?

I think the aggressive gujjus this time originally attacked Indian origin muslims. Bohris from what I hear. Pakistanis were nowhere in the picture. If you insert yourselves then what can we do?

Why should you have a problem with Hindutva in the UK. Does the UK belong to you? Funnily increasingly the UK actually belongs to us. What happens if the tables get reveresed?

We will boycott a community that wants to live outside the norms of our land. Its a peaceful step. An economic one. If they cannot survive and need us to put food on the table, then they cannot have it both ways. They need to live by some common ground rules.

The bulldozing is all done by the state. No on else has the means or the power to do it. And it is done legally of course, because it is per state machinery rules and guidelines. Yes you could say that rules are used to target one community. I do not agree, but you could say that. And so could our muslims, who can and do move court. As I said, this is not extra judicial. And it is a whole lot less brutal than the muslim reeducation practised by your closest ally. You are free to see this as something similar, Indian culture and politics style.

What massive scale communal violence son? The UP riots started because of a hindu Jat girl and muslim qureshi boys. The Delhi riots were again planned and instigated and initiated by muslims under the garb of the CAA protests.
 

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Son part of some education. India is friends with muslim countries who do not like you, and even borderline or overtly hate you. Iran. Afghanistan. Saudi. Turkey. Bangladesh. All these countries like Indians way more than Pakistanis. Where is the muslim angle and the hindutva angst? Hindutva is directed inwards. Not outwards. We expect something from our muslims and we will get it. Why are you or why should any other muslim be bothered? Do you see Chechen warriors threatening holy wars against us along with Ukraine? ONLY you have a problem with us. And the feeling is wholly mutual. We have a big problem with you. No one else cares. The rest of the muslim world see it as a Hindu or Hindu or Hendi on Hendi fight.
You have been given a free pas to spit shit on this forum. You are making things up as if everyone is a dummy here.

Iranians like Indians? I personally knows many Iranians, they all avoid Indians like a plague. They make fun of everything about you, your culture, the way you speak, your food etc.
Forget Saudis and Turkeys. Not even many Bengalis like you. Don't even think about Sri Lankans. All non-indian South Asians i.e. Pakistan, Sri Lank and Bangladesh consider Indian presence as a blot on their reputation. None of them are happy when they are called Indians. Indians on the other hand take it as a compliment if mistaken for another nationality.

Look at the true love Indians get from different countries.

 
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You have been given a free pas to spit shit on this forum. You are making things up as if everyone is a dummy here.

Iranians like Indians? I personally knows many Iranians, they all avoid Indians like a plague. They make fun of everything about you, your culture, the way you speak, your food etc.
Forget Saudis and Turkeys. Not even many Bengalis like you. Don't even think about Sri Lankans. All non-indian South Asians i.e. Pakistan, Sri Lank and Bangladesh consider Indian presence as a blot on their reputation. None of them are happy when they are called Indians. Indians on the other hand take it as a compliment if mistaken for another nationality.

Myself and my bengali friends always correct people when they ask whether we are from India, or say that we are Indians.
We tell them straight: i.e we are Pakistanis, or Bengalis. I have also noticed that Pakistanis take a lot more pride in their nationality than Indians do

It is a disgrace to our ancestors to identify as inhabitants of the same state that they sought their independence from

Why should you have a problem with Hindutva in the UK. Does the UK belong to you? Funnily increasingly the UK actually belongs to us. What happens if the tables get reveresed?

The export of the Hindutvadi ideology to the UK has lead to many issues within muslim communities. it's no secret that women have been targeted by Hindutvadis and harassed. Furthermore, I have had first hand experience of the Hindutvadis organising targeted bullying of Muslim Children within schools
We will boycott a community that wants to live outside the norms of our land. Its a peaceful step. An economic one. If they cannot survive and need us to put food on the table, then they cannot have it both ways. They need to live by some common ground rules.
So you are essentially subjugating those that do not bend to your will.
You're practically admitted that Hindutva is a radical ideology
 

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Myself and my bengali friends always correct people when they ask whether we are from India, or say that we are Indians.
We tell them straight: i.e we are Pakistanis, or Bengalis. I have also noticed that Pakistanis take a lot more pride in their nationality than Indians do

It is a disgrace to our ancestors to identify as inhabitants of the same state that they sought their independence from



The export of the Hindutvadi ideology to the UK has lead to many issues within muslim communities. it's no secret that women have been targeted by Hindutvadis and harassed. Furthermore, I have had first hand experience of the Hindutvadis organising targeted bullying of Muslim Children within schools

So you are essentially subjugating those that do not bend to your will.
You're practically admitted that Hindutva is a radical ideology

You should be proud of your country. But in the same breath don't grudge Indian Muslims being proud of their own and call them names like sarkari musalman. Or find motives of coerced compliance. Fair?

I already said in a previous post that what you see in India over the past 3 decades is reeducation Indian style. Indian ethos. Ahimsa. And Saam Daam Dand Bhed.

We will eventually have a model muslim minority living with a much bigger non muslim majority in step with our civilization and culture , yet numbering more than most other muslim nations in earth. A worthy goal.
 
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All content is filmed and published by the owner of the channel.
I trust his content, as he records firefights himself most of the time and I have seen a few of the firefights that he has recorded, IRL
look too similar from a fire fight about 4 or 5 years ago with Afghan national army.
 

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Seems they are speaking Pashto but did they chant Ya Ali? 🤔

Isn't that a Shia slogan?
don't be silly. Hazrat Ali doesn't belong to a sect.

Ya Ali is as much a Sunni Muslim war cry as much as Shia's. and is not uncommon in the army,
here is another example.
you will give TTP a heart attack if you declared the entire 63 FF to be Shia. LOL

 

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don't be silly. Hazrat Ali doesn't belong to a sect.

Ya Ali is as much a Sunni Muslim war cry as much as Shia's. and is not uncommon in the army,
here is another example.
you will give TTP a heart attack if you declared the entire 63 FF to be Shia. LOL

I don't like getting into religious debates here, but....

Ya Ali is very much Shia in origin, even if some Sunnis now use it.

The significance of putting Ya infront of Ali is a Shia practice.

It is religious in significance.

It's like when Ya is put in front of Muhammad (SALLALLAHU ALAYHI WA SALLAM) is pretty much a Baralvi religious practice.
 

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I don't like getting into religious debates here, but....

Ya Ali is very much Shia in origin, even if some Sunnis now use it.

The significance of putting Ya infront of Ali is a Shia practice.

It is religious in significance.

It's like when Ya is put in front of Muhammad (SALLALLAHU ALAYHI WA SALLAM) is pretty much a Baralvi religious practice.
interesting
but it has been a very regular war cry in the army, specially SSG from my living memory since childhood although it was toned down during Gen Zia time
so while doing fatigue, starting march , sprinting, bucking up people just like raising Takbir and while you are all charged up Ya Ali was like further fuel to the fire.

you are correct about Beralvi influence as well Ya Rasul Allah . And Shia claim over exclusivity over Ya Ali. a wahabi (apologies for lack of term) argument is Ya is only valid for a living person and even if Prophet Muhammad PBUH used Ya Ali it was only so because both were alive. but the counter has been that these sacred personalities live in our hearts.

I have a diverse mix of family mostly Beralvis but some Ahl Hadith and few converted to Deobandi faith due to peer influence and some shia members through marriages. so it has been a good learning experience in addition to friendly banter and friendly teasing each other within confines of mutual respect.

I will respectfully stop it here because It is not the subject matter here. we are talking about responding to Afghan Taliban excesses.
 

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I cant wait for the day we have technology to dig a km wide trench along that border.
It's shocking how ungrateful nation that is, they still have over 3 million Afghans taking refuge in Pakistan, and still they continue to attack.
Teaching them a lesson is the only way they learn.
As usual the approach needs to be multi-prong. At tactical level move against these elements decisively and ruthlessly.
At the strategic level;
  1. continue to engage senior taliban leadership
  2. provide opportunities to engage them so they see usefulness in peace
  3. engage civilian afghan populace to gain support and goodwill.
 

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interesting
but it has been a very regular war cry in the army, specially SSG from my living memory since childhood although it was toned down during Gen Zia time
so while doing fatigue, starting march , sprinting, bucking up people just like raising Takbir and while you are all charged up Ya Ali was like further fuel to the fire.

you are correct about Beralvi influence as well Ya Rasul Allah . And Shia claim over exclusivity over Ya Ali. a wahabi (apologies for lack of term) argument is Ya is only valid for a living person and even if Prophet Muhammad PBUH used Ya Ali it was only so because both were alive. but the counter has been that these sacred personalities live in our hearts.

I have a diverse mix of family mostly Beralvis but some Ahl Hadith and few converted to Deobandi faith due to peer influence and some shia members through marriages. so it has been a good learning experience in addition to friendly banter and friendly teasing each other within confines of mutual respect.

I will respectfully stop it here because It is not the subject matter here. we are talking about responding to Afghan Taliban excesses.
The age old rumor of the behavior of the bishops and priests of Jerusalem comes to mind when Muslim armies were at their door. Apparently they were debating something superfluous such as number of angels at the tip of the lords sword or something.

This threads turn makes it look like that story applied better to the moosalmans here when their enemy is at their gates, screwing their wife - indoctrinating their kids via social media and using their religion as toilet paper.. they are worried if a call to Hazrat Ali or the Prophet is shirk when none of them are worth in character to the fecal matter of their camels.
 

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The age old rumor of the behavior of the bishops and priests of Jerusalem comes to mind when Muslim armies were at their door. Apparently they were debating something superfluous such as number of angels at the tip of the lords sword or something.

This threads turn makes it look like that story applied better to the moosalmans here when their enemy is at their gates, screwing their wife - indoctrinating their kids via social media and using their religion as toilet paper.. they are worried if a call to Hazrat Ali or the Prophet is shirk when none of them are worth in character to the fecal matter of their camels.
allegedly shia and sunni scholars were having a debate about who is int he front if two people are running around a tree or how many angels can balance themselves at a time on a tip of a needle just before Halaku put Baghdad under siege.
seems like the useless Mongols missed some people under the pile of corpses that managed to procreate and left their genes from Iraq to Pakistan.
lol
 

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You should be proud of your country. But in the same breath don't grudge Indian Muslims being proud of their own and call them names like sarkari musalman. Or find motives of coerced compliance. Fair?

I already said in a previous post that what you see in India over the past 3 decades is reeducation Indian style. Indian ethos. Ahimsa. And Saam Daam Dand Bhed.

We will eventually have a model muslim minority living with a much bigger non muslim majority in step with our civilization and culture , yet numbering more than most other muslim nations in earth. A worthy goal.
Abay get some toilets 1st then talk sh1t
 

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Abay get some toilets 1st then talk sh1t

Yes. Our model minority muslims will all have toilets with adequate drainage and clean running water. And we will teach them how to use them. I once saw a pretty well to do sorts washing his feet in the wash basin of an international airport washroom. The attendant was exasperated, I was gobsmacked, but while we looked on he went on his merry way, first raising one pyjama leg, then the other, very conscientiously. I couldn't but help admire his chutzpah.
 

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