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Aamir Hussain

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Nope not produced anymore. However, this was the only product that was produced ground up as at that time we had procured the whole production line and jigs tools from UK and producing it in Pakistan as Bedford Rocket (TJ Series). The engine block was produced by Bela Engineering if I am not mistaken. The engine was very popular and used as engines in fishing boats, tube wells and even in generators of that time.
 

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Nope not produced anymore. However, this was the only product that was produced ground up as at that time we had procured the whole production line and jigs tools from UK and producing it in Pakistan as Bedford Rocket (TJ Series). The engine block was produced by Bela Engineering if I am not mistaken. The engine was very popular and used as engines in fishing boats, tube wells and even in generators of that time.
I believe Hinopak is producing trucks locally and i believe Bedford went out of the truck business years ago
 

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So why aren't we using it on western border with Afghanistan & iran? Daily our soldier's are getting martyred in an ambush by mines etc. Why still using Toyota hilux?

And where are those thousands of M113/ Hamza Apc's? Getting rusted to be used in Ghazwa-e-hind?
250+. Possibly more are coming
 

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So why aren't we using it on western border with Afghanistan & iran? Daily our soldier's are getting martyred in an ambush by mines etc. Why still using Toyota hilux?

And where are those thousands of M113/ Hamza Apc's? Getting rusted to be used in Ghazwa-e-hind?
Probably because the fatility rate on proper roads is almost equal to zero, issues occur where the terrain is too tough for even the MRAPs for daily patrolling or recon.
Someone professional from Army can uncover the real reasons but there must be some as Army personalls also realize what we do shout...

Hi are you sure my friend or just a rumour coz then why on earth they not using these specifically in Baluchistan where recently an unfortunate incident happened
Thank you
Assigned to mechanized infantary, not FC.
Moreover they are tracked hence suitable for plains, not rocky difficult terrain!
 

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Pakistan need a descent latest design and technology based MRAP in it's inventory, we'll become a vintage army if we fail to develop a descent tank or MRAP for ourself it is the need of this house to minimize the casualties in balochistan and fata
 

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Pakistan need a descent latest design and technology based MRAP in it's inventory, we'll become a vintage army if we fail to develop a descent tank or MRAP for ourself it is the need of this house to minimize the casualties in balochistan and fata
I really am amazed; producing mine proof vehicle is not rocket science. We started it from early 80s.

Attaching first gen from Rhodesia where it all began..... If they could do it in the backwaters of southern rhodesia - why not now?
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I really am amazed; producing mine proof vehicle is not rocket science. We started it from early 80s.

Attaching first gen from Rhodesia where it all began..... If they could do it in the backwaters of southern rhodesia - why not now?
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issue is our budget, we can not afford to equip our army with these modern techs therefore we are relying on these ww2 era machines and the little modern machines we have are kept safe for the hard times
 

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Budget is not the issue. Lack of foresight and creativity is the issue. Falling in the feet of Gora for every little piece of technology is the issue.
issue is our budget, we can not afford to equip our army with these modern techs therefore we are relying on these ww2 era machines and the little modern machines we have are kept safe for the hard times
 

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issue is our budget, we can not afford to equip our army with these modern techs therefore we are relying on these ww2 era machines and the little modern machines we have are kept safe for the hard times
Please read what i wrote and see that photos!. That is real.

Mine proof vehicles are our core business; you keep on asking US .. US .. US... why do you not reach out to us, the M'ricans turned to us to design and engineer their vehicles which you have in Iraq and Afghanistan.

We could have helped design it with your local vehicles too but that too was not followed. Where is the fault?

When Rhodesians farmers could build their versions using VW bug ... come on my friend.. have some gray matter between your head.
 

Aamir Hussain

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The issue is no kickbacks for locally produced kit.

IMHO and with little engineering & fabrication background (Because of my family business), take a twin cabin (toyota), strip it down to the chassis and the engine. Strengthen the chassis with steel plates hot riveted on to the chassis and put heavier shock absorbers and leaf springs. We used to take old/used NLC Ford D1121 flat bed trucks and converted them to tankers through this method for NLC to use them at Khaskheli to transport Crude Oil.

One can build a lower cost, structure on the strengthened chassis including V shaped hull. Or take a Unimog or a Fiat Iveco Chassis and play around with it to build a highly customized, fit for Pakistan, Vehicle. It can be as sophisticated as the American ones or just armored vans with ports for firing using peoples steel mills produced forged steel as add-on/bolt-on armor.

I would only recommend an enclosed machine gun turret, smoke discharges, and central Tyre inflation system along with a V shaped hull.

If the soldiers using the vehicles have confidence in the protection, they will stand and fight otherwise they bug out of the vehicle at the first chance they get because once stopped, the next would be an RPG round.
 

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