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‘Pakistan Army a threat to India, not its people or government'

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  1. Fighter488

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    Quite interesting. :toast_sign:
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    ‘Pakistan Army a threat to India, not its people or government'


    Shujaat Bukhari

    The former Chief of the Army Staff, General (retired) V.P. Malik, on Wednesday said the Pakistan Army, not its people or government, was a threat to India, and that India was fighting a proxy war in Afghanistan, a country vital to India's interests.

    Gen. Malik was speaking at a seminar “Rising India: Challenges of a Troubled Neighbourhood” at the Sher-i-Kashmir International Conference Centre, organised by the Dr. Syama Prasad Mookherjee Research Foundation here to commemorate the death anniversary of Syama Prasad Mookherjee. This was the first time such a function is being organised here.

    “The people and the government of Pakistan are not a threat to India, but the Pakistan Army continues to be the threat for India,” Gen. Malik said. “The Pakistan Army is a threat and we need to be conscious about it. Also, when the democratic political leadership of Pakistan has total control over the ISI [Inter-Services Intelligence], chances of peace with India will increase.”

    Maintaining that Afghanistan is vital to India's interests, he said: “We need to have an open policy with the country. India is fighting a proxy war with Pakistan not only within the country but also in Afghanistan.”

    He cautioned New Delhi on ties with China, saying: “India has to be cautious of China being more assertive and exploiting our appeasement, the more it grows and achieves strength. Although all political initiatives are a welcome step, we have to see that there are many pending disputes with China. We are also in a dilemma about China's benchmark of thinking when they talk about their country as a geographical unit.”

    On the Naxal problem and internal security issues, he said: “The Maoist problem, the demand for Telangana, Maharashtra for Maharashtrians — we cannot concede to all this. We cannot empower the citizens of India by diminishing the country.”

    Noted journalist M.J. Akbar criticised the notion of ‘Rising India.' “Is it India rising at 8 per cent or 8 per cent of India rising at 8 per cent?” he said.

    The concept of majority and minority, Mr. Akbar said, depended on empowerment. “Brahmins, I think, are just 2 per cent in India, but they never consider themselves a minority. The Muslims, after the political depression in the 19th century, are still struggling in India, and the uplift of the Muslim community depends on Muslim women in India, who have been made slaves by religious preachers,” he said.

    “The Muslims of India never voted for development. They always voted for fear,” Mr. Akbar added.

    Former diplomat T.C.A. Rangachari said China needed to be understood on a preferential basis. “People should learn the Chinese language to understand China. The Kashmir University should have the facility of teaching Chinese. China is growing at a fast pace, but they don't want the world to feel their growth,” he said.

    Kashmir University Vice-Chancellor Riyaz Punjabi emphasised need to strengthen the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC).

    Tarun Vijay, director of the Dr. Syama Prasad Mookherjee Research Foundation, said: “We have come to say hello to the youth of Kashmir and we also visited the Kashmir University to meet the youth.”



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  2. S_O_C_O_M

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    china is real scared of this warning. :rofl:
     
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    Pakistan Army is made of some of the most Patriotic Pakistani People :).It is not made of Aliens.
     
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    i think nothing is b/w the people.even my relative went to holland,a pakistani dutch helped a lot them,he helped him in getting house,even job.even he had talked to his parents.even i talked to some pakistani teenagers in india as they were asking 4 some help as they forgot the way to their residence,i never felt that they are frm pak,i helped them as i could help any indian.
     
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    Thanks for sharing this secret. Next time this fact will be kept in our minds while dealing with you ppl. I was developing a soft corner for pakistanis but your post cleared the clouds of doubt in my mind.
    Now i am 100% sure that you ppl are our enemies.
     
  6. RescueRanger

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    So by declaring our army your enemy you were softening the tone... :confused:
     
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    I think Malick was trying to make a postive statement here, can you imagine kayani saying india people are not out enemy only the army is ?
     
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    Pakistan Army is the most moderate institution in Pakistan . Indian military officials secretly admit that if it is not GHQ exercising some influence over the foreign policies, things could have gone much worse. Pakistani politics need India as to score political points where as the GHQ kept everything in balance. I disagree with General VP Malik for what he said regarding Pakistan Army. Most of his colleague in Indian Army will also laud my opinion. There are undeniably radical elements at GHQ but they have been kept at bay . The driving force of GHQ is not per se hostile to India as long as there is no solid reason for it.
     
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    Who's this kid who opened his conscious eye in PDF forum only few posts back.

    salvation,
    What are you doing here if you don't know this forum is a defense forum and it is run by the People of Pakistan and not by Army. You think you will post some utter garbage against our Army and people would clap and say Yay Yay Yay?

    And you were probably sleeping when Cold Start doctrine was being propagated by India which is against the people of land of Pakistan and not Army. Give some time to your innocence and become mature before you post next time.

    Have a good day.
     
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    who cares what india says, they and their idiotic journalists (the most idiotic in the world), can keep on blabbing what they want, nothing they can do to us that we cannot do to them.
     
  11. American Pakistani

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    Pak Army is Pride of Pakistan, whatever India want to think or say they can say, we the common people of Pakistan love our military. While we are sleeping in our airconditioned houses, enjoying our life etc, the patriotic military, after Allah, is guarding us from all enemies and threats. Now please Indian friends dont think that i hate India.
    Salute to the Great Pak Army:pakistan::pakistan:
     
  12. Adam Gilchrist

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    Lets not get too emotional guys.

    I think what General Malik was trying to say was that the Pakistan Army has evil plans against our nation and not the Pakistani people.So the army is the enemy not common people who probably have nothing bad for our country.

    I can understand the love and respect the Pakistani people have for their Army but the General meant something else which anyhow you wont like.
     
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    Your general's ideology is as childish as that of General Kapoor's. IS there a criteria upon failing which you guys appoint the soldiers as Military Generals?

    Army is as much Pakistani as I or my family. So hold your finger to your palm and restrain pointing at our Proud Soldiers. They live and die for us we live and die with them and we are all Proud Pakistanis! Let that be undestood.
     
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    welll if indian changes it policies even today and support pakistan im sure pakistan will welcome it from millitary from govt and from people to people contact
     
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    General (retired) V.P. Malik got it totally wrong here.Pakistan army is more of a threat to its own people than to india.Gen V.p.Malik being military man cant think logically.
     
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