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It would be a good option as the JF17 has been designed to take on and beat the Su-30 series, which Armenia also operates. Block III is picking up alot of interest right now. Hopefully PAF remembers that it needs to make alot for itself, in addition to sales!
If the demand goes up significantly with foreign sales; they could open up a second line to meet the demand. I’m sure PAC and CAC would be glad to accommodate the orders.
 

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what benefit does turboprop provide as compared to piston engine?

aren't piston engines more efficient ? cost effective ?
WING LONG II purchase if has been made which my sources suggest is not the case. Still that purchase will have nothing to do with speed of development of our MALE UAV.
we need 50+ drones now drones with payload and very long endurance to provide ground support to our troops in Baluchistan while we need to up the FALCO operations in Baluchistan for close surveillance

the boarder and smuggling HAS to stop
 

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what benefit does turboprop provide as compared to piston engine?

aren't piston engines more efficient ? cost effective ?
reliability, fuel efficiency and higher power the last 2 will translate into increase in endurance, speed & payload carrying capability at higher altitude
 

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We should look for partner and do JV in drones with full combat systems rather then importing everything ..
We saw what happened to turkey when they did that
 

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JF-17 Thunder Block-III | What we know so far | Thread

1: 3 axis FBW
2: AESA radar, unknown type.
3: Upgraded powerplant (RD-93MA?)
4: 8x Hard points
5: Reinforced wing roots to carry hard hitting 2000lb munitions, Inc cruise missiles.
6: Forward looking MAWRs like F-15SA.
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JF-17 Thunder Block-III | What we know so far | Thread

1: 3 axis FBW
2: AESA radar, unknown type.
3: Upgraded powerplant (RD-93MA?)
4: 8x Hard points
5: Reinforced wing roots to carry hard hitting 2000lb munitions, Inc cruise missiles.
6: Forward looking MAWRs like F-15SA.
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7: Integrated Electronic Warfare & Countermeasures with updated APU.

8: Upgraded Cockpit, wide area HUD, Data link, HMS?

9: LED landing gear lights, Night air Refueling lights.

10: Digital Engineering, easier hanger maintainablity.
 

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7: Integrated Electronic Warfare & Countermeasures with updated APU.

8: Upgraded Cockpit, wide area HUD, Data link, HMS?

9: LED landing gear lights, Night air Refueling lights.

10: Digital Engineering, easier hanger maintainablity.
Increased Capabilities:

1: Overall increase in flight performance due to higher thrust and FBW.

2: Increased range due to super sonic tanks and night time air Refueling.

3: Capable of carrying heavy bunker buster munitions, cruise missiles, LGBs, GPS guided weapons.
 

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Increased Capabilities:

1: Overall increase in flight performance due to higher thrust and FBW.

2: Increased range due to super sonic tanks and night time air Refueling.

3: Capable of carrying heavy bunker buster munitions, cruise missiles, LGBs, GPS guided weapons.
4: Extended Range BVRAAMs.

5: High speed data sharing highway with all C4ISR assets including UAVs.

6: All aspect, High Off Bore Sighted Missiles.

7: DFRM, toed decoy based EW and SP system is likely to be integrated.

8: Long range AESA radar gives Mini AWACS capability.
 

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4: Extended Range BVRAAMs.

5: High speed data sharing highway with all C4ISR assets including UAVs.

6: All aspect, High Off Bore Sighted Missiles.

7: DFRM, toed decoy based EW and SP system is likely to be integrated.

8: Long range AESA radar gives Mini AWACS capability.
9: Software is likely going to be upgraded, offering more autonomy.

10: It will be a proper 4.5 gen aircraft, surpassing the performance of F-16s, currently in service in key domains.

Feel free to share this thread and your comments - Cheers.

- Shahid

And we still want J10C?
 

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9: Software is likely going to be upgraded, offering more autonomy.

10: It will be a proper 4.5 gen aircraft, surpassing the performance of F-16s, currently in service in key domains.

Feel free to share this thread and your comments - Cheers.

- Shahid

And we still want J10C?
Fuel fraction -> range - >deep strike.
Doesn’t matter what aircraft.
If Pakistan were allowed to integrate SOM or other stand off systems with the viper, the J-10C is irrelevant.
 

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Is there a reason why you posted all this over 6 different posts on the same thread, and not as a single post ???????
 

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And we still want J10C?
Considering the performance upgrades that the latest JF-17 include, is China considering to induct it in its Air Force?
If all the inclusions are there as mentioned then it would be a potent platform and one of the best in this part of the world.
 

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Considering the performance upgrades that the latest JF-17 include, is China considering to induct it in its Air Force?
If all the inclusions are there as mentioned then it would be a potent platform and one of the best in this part of the world.
It has been discussed for thousands of times previously but since you are new here, please go through JF-17 threads in particular section to understand the reason. This thread is designated specifically for PAF News Discussion. JF-17 is not required by China given the geographical scenario and moreover, PLAAF do have many of their own jets. Your argument as such is nothing more than a primary level enquiry so that warrants search for your knowledge for which, you will need to do it by yourself by going through different threads and update yourself which will save us from repetition of irrelevant argument.

Regards,
 

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